I know that GUI does not cover most of functionalities, for good reasons - being specialized to task (like files app), it provides more fine-grained experience.

Yet, I find that there are common commands which is terminal-only, or not faithfully implemented. for instance,

  • Commands like apt update/apt upgrade might be needed, as GUI may not allow enough interactions with it.
  • I heard some immutable distros require running commands for rollbacks.

These could cause some annoyance for those who want to avoid terminal unless necessary (including me). Hence, I bet there are terminal emulators which restricts what commands you could run, and above all, present them as buttons. This will make you recall the commonly used commands, and run them accordingly. Is there projects similar to what I describe? Thanks!

  • atzanteolEnglish
    62·
    5 months ago

    Just create GUI application for the things you want. There’s already lots of them.

    Otherwise there’s always “–help”.

    • someacnt_@lemmy.worldOP
      11·
      5 months ago

      I mean, there are already tons of applications that lets you e.g. update, like apt update/upgrade does.

      One issue with it is that it fails time to time, and error messages the GUI usually conveys are subpar. That’s why I think you cannot avoid terminals. I just want some middle ground for that.

      Also, ik this is nitpicking but… while apt is good on this front… what about the CLIs whose --help gives hundreds of lines?

      • atzanteolEnglish
        51·
        5 months ago

        I mean, there are already tons of applications that lets you e.g. update, like apt update/upgrade does.

        Bingo.

        while apt is good on this front… what about the CLIs whose --help gives hundreds of lines?

        Read them. There’s a reason some programs have many options. Avoiding the CLI isn’t the solution.

        • someacnt_@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          5 months ago

          The apps just fail and crash randomly, any linux users cannot entirely rely on them. Well, I guess linux is destined for 2% of desktop users, who can use terminal on a daily basis, and current rise is just a fluke.

          • atzanteolEnglish
            22·
            5 months ago

            Yes, that’s fine. If you didn’t like Linux you’re welcome to not use it.

            You see the console as a flaw. Some of us see it as an advantage.

          • Telorand@reddthat.com
            11·
            5 months ago

            Well, I guess linux is destined for 2% of desktop users, who can use terminal on a daily basis, and current rise is just a fluke.

            Dunno what you’re talking about. Most people I’ve seen who have made the switch just go learn how to use the terminal. You’ll have to eventually, since many people have use cases that fall outside the sane defaults of whatever distro you chose, and there’s tons of videos, online communities, and written tutorials to help.

            The rest know somebody who can help or just want a system that can do whatever defaults it’s been set up to do out of the box (e.g. open pictures, use a web browser, play Steam games, etc.).

      • ReveredOxygenEnglish
        1·
        5 months ago

        kde’s discover and gnome software have both worked fine for me, for the most part