• Erikatharsis@kbin.social
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    For every Daryl Davis who can successfully talk down 100 Klansmen, you’ll find 100 Black people begging for their lives trying to reason with the Klan in their last moments. For every thought of “I can fix them!” that you may have, you have to weigh that against how many more people you’ll need to fix if you platform their ideas and treat them as something worth “respectfully debating”.

    Convincing people to leave hate groups is a great thing to do, but if respectful debate were effective on the large scale, and we have no shortage of people respectfully arguing that hate is a bad thing, why is the far right a bigger threat now than it was ten years ago? Do not tolerate the intolerant, do not debate the undebatable, do not respect the unrespectable.

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      The “far right” is growing because the left keeps moving further left, and normal people realize they’re now considered conservative.

      If you want an echo chamber, go on and kick me out. You reap what you sow.

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        What insane version of reality are you living in?

        Globally the Overton window has shifted drastically right these past few decades.

        Not too long ago leftists were holding ceos hostage and fighting armed conflicts, it’s so watered down people think someone like Bernie Sanders is a radical communist when he’s basically centrist.

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        The “far right” is growing because the left keeps moving further left, and normal people realize they’re now considered conservative.

        I guess there really is no floor for how simple an idea can be when it’s not beholden to reality. Thanks for the example.

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        This talking point is a deliberate strategy of the far-right that has no basis in reality.

        The far-right is growing because people like him are allowed platforms to groom people for extremism. And whenever that platform is at risk, they start trying to guilt people by bleating about “censorship” and “free speech” and “echo chambers”.

        Just ban him. He will never contribute anything of value. We’re already aware what the opinions of assholes are, we don’t need reminding.

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          It’s absolutely true. Look at the DNC policy from 20+ years ago, and you’d think it looks like RNC policy of today. Moving leftward is part and parcel of the notion of “Progressive” politics — moving progressively leftward.

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          Should I be surprised that someone so radically far-left, so as to believe the US has no left, is someone who freely dishes out insults?

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            If I’m “radically far left”, where would you place tankies and the likes then? Seriously, get your head checked and open your eyes as to what is happening in your idiotic country. If you don’t like my harsh tone, then simply start to do better, be better, be a decent human being. Until then I’m not going to touch you with velvet gloves because your behavior and decisions over there have a crucial impact on the rest of the world. Until then you can continue to suck my pucker, because that somehow would still make your shit spewing mouth somehow cleaner. o7