• mwguy@infosec.pub
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    5 months ago

    Does anyone really think am that a ceasefire is viable while Hamas still holds hostages?

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      5 months ago

      Extremely unfun fact: Israel is holding hundreds if not thousands of times as many innocent civilians hostage as Hamas on trumped up charges if any, routinely torturing them physically, mentally, and sexually.

      So you can take your Hasbara gaslighting deflection and shove it.

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        5 months ago

        We’re not morons. We don’t have to pretend that people held by Israel are universally innocent. I’m sure there’s an innocence rate just like any justice system; but a significant portion of those people did criminal things.

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          5 months ago

          We’re not morons

          Not convinced based on your conduct so far or the fact that you return to the scene of your humiliation two days later when everyone else has moved on from the conversation.

          We don’t have to pretend that people held by Israel are universally innocent

          We don’t have to pretend that they’re universally guilty and deserving of all abuse, though. The IDF torturers do, though.

          a significant portion of those people did criminal things.

          Prove it, then. Don’t just torture people who you don’t know to be guilty or attack military police trying to question torturers

          Even if they WERE all guilty, torture would still be cruel and dehumanizing treatment that is never acceptable under any circumstances.

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            5 months ago

            Even if they WERE all guilty, torture would still be cruel and dehumanizing treatment that is never acceptable under any circumstances.

            So take hostages is your conclusion?

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      5 months ago

      It’s working out so well now, you mean? When the IDF shot hostages, bombed schools and murdered thousands of innocent people?

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      5 months ago

      The people did democratically vote for war. They voted in the party that ran on destroying Israel lol. Why so shocked when it came? They tell you how shitty their living conditions were all these years this and that. Yet, somehow they’ve had millions and millions of children. Somehow they’ve fed all these children. Somehow their children population exponentiallly grows. Meanwhile, the rest of us all are having a child birth crisis.

      They chose to raise an army and surprise they lost.

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        They chose to raise an army and surprise they lost.

        Significantly worse than this. They raised an army and stole $11b or more dollars of potential military funding. They invested $0 in defensive technologies for their citizens like bomb shelters. They started a war against one of the best equipped and trained militaries in the world and then didn’t defend themselves at all.