• mindbleach
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    4 months ago

    Good faith means “sincere.” Not “polite.”

    I said absolutely nothing egregious and offended nobody.

    YOU DON’T GET TO DECIDE IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED.

    The words you wrote are wrong, actually. You are clutching your pearls as though half a dozen people telling you why and how, in fucking detail, must be completely mistaken, and also dishonest, and also faking it. Fuck you. If you’re not trolling then it’s really goddamn difficult to discern your behavior from that of a deliberately infuriating liar. You can take that feedback and learn from it, or you can continue to be bewildered the next time everybody acts like the words you say are the wrong fucking words.

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      4 months ago

      I really felt the need to respond, but I promise this is the last one this time.

      Goof faith means that you make an honest attempt at understand what a person is telling you and if you disagree try to change their opinion with arguments. Saying “shut the fuck up” on your first comment does not fit into that picture.

      If somebody gets offended by what you said doesn’t mean that the statement is offensive. It’s ultimately subjective, yes, but if we were to label things, then it’s decided by a general consensus. If I, for example, tell a Christian that I don’t believe in their God and they get offended my statement doesn’t become offensive, it’s on them for getting offended. With that in mind, nothing I said in my original comment would be considered offensive by a rational person.

      I’m yet to see how what I said was wrong. Let me do a brief rundown of the responses:

      • A couple of “let’s move on from fascist rhetoric” and “fascist complacency”.
        I have already shown that this is a misinterpretation in my previous comment to you.
      • “That’s how you get fascist regimes.”
        You don’t get fascist regimes for holding the media accountable. But again, misinterpretation.
      • One person calling me an asshole twice, implying that I support Trump and am saying that we shouldn’t care that he said that.
        Just an attack based on some assumptions.
      • Your comment about brain worms.
        Honestly, I’m not even fully sure what exactly you meant, but I’m guessing you’re implying that I’m trolling? Which I’m not, as you can see from my rational explanation from the previous comment. Not trolling, not lying. Just don’t like when the media cries wolf for views and then desensitizes people to real issues.
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      In conclusion, nobody interpreted my words correctly and thus can’t be telling me that what I was trying to say is incorrect, and few really tried. Perhaps I should have been more clear from the get-go, I just assumed that people would understand what I meant. But my previous comment should clear everything up.

      And I’m not defending myself here. I’m just trying to get people be more understanding and less reactionary. I have higher standards for Lemmy than I have for Reddit and the rest of the social platforms. But that might be the hopeless romantics/optimist in me. I’ll learn from this and lower my standards.

      Have a good one!

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        4 months ago

        “If we ignore everyone explaining the unavoidable meaning of my own words, it must be their fault they object to what I said and how I defend it, and also I’m not defending it, and also also I’m lowering my expectations because you’re all so stupid.”

        “And I couldn’t figure out who had brain worms in your one-sentence reply with one subject.”

        You are an idiot.

        Good luck. Apparently nothing else will help.