I would disagree. When the right (known liars like Boebert, Trump, Logan Paul, etc) continuously lie about anything to try to rile up their base, I say it’s imperative to completely disregard their opinions unless someone trusted is making the accusations. This is what they expect, this is exactly what they want. We need to ignore them. Not even bring it up. Keep them fringe and outcast them as weirdos. They bring nothing good to the table but lies, hatred, and divisiveness.
I would disagree. As another poster pointed out, there are serious questions about the integrity of the IBA, not least the fact that they aren’t recognised by the IOC. To suggest that the IOC wouldn’t have clear eligibility criteria feels at best misguided.
The IOC does have clear eligibility requirements for atheletes who are legitimately transgender, I’m not sure how that applies to born-female atheletes. You have to have a testosterone level below a set level for a full year before and during competition.
We already know she failed that test previously, or rather, PURPORTEDLY failed that test previously, given the overall jankieness of her boxing federation.
That’s what makes the whole thing complicated. Did she REALLY fail it? 🤔 Is the boxing federation corrupt? 🤔 It’s a big ball of suck.
But my point is that Bobo’s accusation isn’t some bullshit she just made up, like 99% of everything else she says.
The ‘accusation’ is that Imane Khelif is a ‘biological male’, which is absolutely some bullshit she just made up. Maybe there’s an argument to be had around testosterone levels in female athletes (although again, the allegation that Khelif has higher than average levels has not actually been corroborated) but I personally don’t think so, and I don’t think this is an example that necessitates that conversation.
But it didn’t. She was disqualified from the competition, it wasn’t clearly stated why. And as previously mentioned, there are huge questions of trustworthiness regarding that organisation. I also have my doubts that Lauren Boebert has any awareness of previous allegations, but suspect she has just jumped on an assumption as many online seem to have done.
“In 2023, IBA president Umar Kremlev said that the disqualifications were because DNA tests “proved they had XY chromosomes”.”
I’m not going to get into the accuracy of the allegations, the IBA refused to prove them, but the fact is the allegation itself has been around for more than a year, long before the current Olympics and Bobo’s statement.
I’ll grant you, Boebert wasn’t the first person to make the claim. But I doubt she’s got an awareness of historical allegations from an association that most people who don’t follow boxing won’t have heard of. I suspect she’s either jumping on a bandwagon of other people making the claim, or making a claim based on her ‘feeling’ that Khelif doesn’t look traditionally feminine.
When 99% of what a person says is made up bullshit, chances are the remaining 1% are too. Or at least it’s taken out of context and twisted to fit a desired narrative. You can’t trust anything they say either way.
The president of the IBA (Umar Kremlev) is a Russian in a position of privilege, a position that is easily influence by Putin’s agenda (who hate anything pro LGBTQ+). I would argue, with plenty of facts to back it up, that the IBA is compromised and is unable to have a neutral stance on this matter.
Under Kremlev’s tenure as IBA head, he has heavily marketed himself, moved the IBA’s operations to Russia, suspended Ukraine from the IBA, and made the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom the sole sponsor of the IBA… The IOC stated that the IBA had failed to address governance, finance and corruption concerns.
I would disagree. When the right (known liars like Boebert, Trump, Logan Paul, etc) continuously lie about anything to try to rile up their base, I say it’s imperative to completely disregard their opinions unless someone trusted is making the accusations. This is what they expect, this is exactly what they want. We need to ignore them. Not even bring it up. Keep them fringe and outcast them as weirdos. They bring nothing good to the table but lies, hatred, and divisiveness.
I would say the head of her boxing federation is a trusted source. That’s what makes this complicated.
“In 2023, IBA president Umar Kremlev said that the disqualifications were because DNA tests “proved they had XY chromosomes”.[24][25]”
Reportedly the XY test was false, but at the same time, they aren’t releasing the methodology that allowed them to say she has XY chromosomes.
You mean the boxing federation filled corruption and that was disqualified by the Olympics?
I would disagree. As another poster pointed out, there are serious questions about the integrity of the IBA, not least the fact that they aren’t recognised by the IOC. To suggest that the IOC wouldn’t have clear eligibility criteria feels at best misguided.
The IOC does have clear eligibility requirements for atheletes who are legitimately transgender, I’m not sure how that applies to born-female atheletes. You have to have a testosterone level below a set level for a full year before and during competition.
We already know she failed that test previously, or rather, PURPORTEDLY failed that test previously, given the overall jankieness of her boxing federation.
That’s what makes the whole thing complicated. Did she REALLY fail it? 🤔 Is the boxing federation corrupt? 🤔 It’s a big ball of suck.
But my point is that Bobo’s accusation isn’t some bullshit she just made up, like 99% of everything else she says.
The ‘accusation’ is that Imane Khelif is a ‘biological male’, which is absolutely some bullshit she just made up. Maybe there’s an argument to be had around testosterone levels in female athletes (although again, the allegation that Khelif has higher than average levels has not actually been corroborated) but I personally don’t think so, and I don’t think this is an example that necessitates that conversation.
It’s not though, it first came from the head of her own boxing league quite some time ago.
But it didn’t. She was disqualified from the competition, it wasn’t clearly stated why. And as previously mentioned, there are huge questions of trustworthiness regarding that organisation. I also have my doubts that Lauren Boebert has any awareness of previous allegations, but suspect she has just jumped on an assumption as many online seem to have done.
See the Wiki linked above:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif
“In 2023, IBA president Umar Kremlev said that the disqualifications were because DNA tests “proved they had XY chromosomes”.”
I’m not going to get into the accuracy of the allegations, the IBA refused to prove them, but the fact is the allegation itself has been around for more than a year, long before the current Olympics and Bobo’s statement.
I’ll grant you, Boebert wasn’t the first person to make the claim. But I doubt she’s got an awareness of historical allegations from an association that most people who don’t follow boxing won’t have heard of. I suspect she’s either jumping on a bandwagon of other people making the claim, or making a claim based on her ‘feeling’ that Khelif doesn’t look traditionally feminine.
When 99% of what a person says is made up bullshit, chances are the remaining 1% are too. Or at least it’s taken out of context and twisted to fit a desired narrative. You can’t trust anything they say either way.
The president of the IBA (Umar Kremlev) is a Russian in a position of privilege, a position that is easily influence by Putin’s agenda (who hate anything pro LGBTQ+). I would argue, with plenty of facts to back it up, that the IBA is compromised and is unable to have a neutral stance on this matter.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Kremlev