• Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Meanwhile, most of the people speaking publicly who are protestors have demands that are very much within the left of political spectrum. They are just done with this corrupt asshole. Yeah, some are not that way, but for everyone right wing sentiment I find, I see like 3 that have all progressive demands.

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      4 months ago

      But would you surrender your country to Russia or China just because your current leader is a corrupt asshole? Would you have voted for Biden instead of Trump?

      The US could have run a social democrat in Venezuela and they’d have won. Instead they picked some ultra-right wing reactionary assholes to support. They picked people who supported the 2002 coup and are in favour of the crushing economic warfare against Venezuela.

      Of course there is legitimate protest against Maduro. But he’s the only choice if you don’t want your country to be forever owned and irrevocably fucked by the US imperialist boot. They have oil. That’s all a regime propped up by the US would need to support, oil extraction. No schools, no universities, no roads, no hospitals, just oil extraction. It’s a fucking grim future if you understand the rules.

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        4 months ago

        It is not an either/or thing. You can absolutely remove the man abusing the people and tell the US to kindly fuck off.

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          4 months ago

          I honestly don’t see how you can do that. The problem is that the opposition and the media is presumably propped up by the US. Under that type of siege (and it is a siege, the US is at war with Venezuela) you don’t have lots of choices. History has shown the results of US interventionism in many countries. So I do think it’s an either/or thing.

          PS: Just look at Argentina how quickly the democratic and social progress of a country can be dismantled.

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            4 months ago

            It is entirely possible, probable even at this point that Maduro just lost the confidence of his people.

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              4 months ago

              Sure, it’s impossible to keep a democracy going with those sanctions. The US is allowing nobody to trade with them. Eventually they’ll surrender or collapse.

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                4 months ago

                Nobody?

                They export to China, Turkiye, Spain, and even the US. That hardly sounds like they’ve been blockaded.

                And the Biden administration tried to roll back the sanctions we do have. But Maduro went back on the deal, specifically related to making sure the elections were free and fair.

                At some point Maduro is the one fucking around. And obviously it’s possible to tell the US to leave you alone, plenty of countries have poor relations with the US and are doing fine.