The European Union is considering the possibility of expelling Hungary from the Schengen Zone due to its recent decision to ease visa restrictions for Russian and Belarusian citizens.
A growing backlash has emerged against Hungary’s move to simplify visa requirements, which includes a new national card program for extended stays and work permits. This policy change, which followed a visit to Moscow by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, has drawn sharp criticism from EU lawmakers.
The lawmakers have also suggested that if Hungary does not amend its policy, the European Commission and EU representatives should consider new measures to protect European citizens. This could include increased border controls at Hungary’s borders and the possibility for other EU states to not recognize Hungarian visas.
The letter, which has collected nearly 70 signatures, including from former Belgian and Irish prime ministers, highlights the escalating tensions within the EU over Hungary’s foreign policy decisions.
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Tangential remark. This source, United24 Media, which has popped up elsewhere here today, is not a proper news organization. It seems to be a mouthpiece of the Ukrainian government which was originally set up to receive foreign donations to the war effort.
That’s all fine, I support their aims too. But it would be better if people posted articles from well-established media outlets employing proper journalists with a code of ethics and an institutional reputation to protect. Rather than propaganda (well-meaning or not) masquerading as journalism.
Come on, this is basic information literacy for the social-media age. We should know all this here.
Thanks for pointing this out. I was indeed also questioning this source.
Thanks for pointing this out. I was indeed also questioning this source.
What is wrong with this source, especially regarding this content? Several media sources are reporting on this issue with the same content in the meantime, I have seen the letter (you’ll find it online in the meantime), I have seen messages by several lawmakers’ on social media which all support the article’s content. So I decided to post this here as the content is accurate.
I’ve chosen this source because among all media reporting on the matter it is the one with less trackers, and it’s not behind Cloudflare unlike many others.
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As the original poster has already said: it’s an official propaganda outlet of the Ukrainian government. Unless you want to highlight what the Ukrainian government wants to push as a message, this is not a valid source for news, as it doesn’t fulfill journalistic minimum standards.
I sometimes even link directly to government agencies’ sites from multiple countries depending on the topic and content, but I never want to highlight what the Ukrainian or any other government want to push. Again, each line in the linked article can be checked independently from multiple sources across the web.
Sometimes propaganda is true 🤷♂️ In fact, as the saying goes, good propaganda has to be mostly true.
Yeah, and some truth makes sense while some is really weird.
well-established media outlets employing proper journalists with a code of ethics and an institutional reputation to protect
Which ones?
If we lack the ability to expel countries from the EU, we should at least have a time out corner to put them in while they sort out their shit. No money, no voting, no Schengen access.
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Maybe I lack background knowledge, but I fail to see how this is a problem. In fact, earlier tightening of visa rules in other Schengen countries, seem misguided?
Russia evidently has no problem getting spies in and activating sleeper agents already present in the EU, so all this does is to make it harder for people in the Russian opposition to relocate and take up jobs in the EU.
There are lots of Russian nationals that fled the country because they disagree with Putin and the current war, and those are currently stuck in countries that are somewhat sympethatic to Putin’s regime, because they can’t get visas elsewhere.
First of all, no one has said that that the Schengen countries shouldn’t help Russian dissidents and those who flee the Putin regime. If the EU can improve that (and I am sure it can) we should do that. I fully supported that. I am certain, however, that this is not what Mr. Orban has in mind with his relaxed visa rules. I firmly believe that he doesn’t want to help Russian dissidents.
And a second point is that Schengen is an partnership of countries. My understanding is that visa and other rules in the bloc should be implemented based on consensual agreement rather than a single government’s decision. Such a move must be done in accordance with, not in disregard of international partners.
First of all, no one has said that that the Schengen countries shouldn’t help Russian dissidents and those who flee the Putin regime.
Thing is, Schengen countries don‘t help Russian dissidents and now some of them want to expel another Schengen country that is easing Visa restrictions. So, what needs to be said? Well, what OP said: Dissidents are stuck in Putin friendly countries.
If the EU can improve that (and I am sure it can) we should do that.
Yes of course it can. It just chose not to for the past 2 years.
I am certain, however, that this is not what Mr. Orban has in mind with his relaxed visa rules. I firmly believe that he doesn’t want to help Russian dissidents.
Yes, he probably doesn‘t. Makes no difference for the dissidents, though.
My understanding is that visa and other rules in the bloc should be implemented based on consensual agreement rather than a single government’s decision. Such a move must be done in accordance with, not in disregard of international partners.
Your understanding is that it should be? Because that‘s not how it is, right? Like we learnt last time: there‘s some discretion individual countries within Schengen can have regarding their Visa implementations. You know, some countries are even unhappy with Germany setting up border controls for the umpteenth time, blocking Schengen’s freedom of movement. But it‘s also within their rights.
A lot of the Russian nationals that left are not clear dissidents (where asylum laws might apply), but rather regular people that disagree but also left for economic reasons (sanctions effecting their jobs) or to avoid being drafted. Sooner or later these people will get so frustrated with their precarious situation that they will go back to Russia, despite their disagreements. It would be in the interest of the EU to attract these often highly qualified people, and I think that is the main reason for Hungary to allow these in.
Of course it would be better to have an coordinated approach and Orban might very well be in breach of some Schengen agreement by doing this, but I see the problem rather in the earlier tightening of visa regulations by other countries.
EU to attract these often highly qualified people, and I think that is the main reason for Hungary to allow these in.
In this point I strongly disagree. Orban has been the first to close Hungarian borders for refugees, and he has been doing that in the same uncooperative manner as he is now relaxing visa rules for Russians. If he is seeking to let highly qualified people in, he could have done that on many occasions in the past ten or so years, but he didn’t. And now he is relaxing visa rules exactly for Russia? I can’t believe that. I don’t think Orban does this to help Russians or for the economy.
Orban is primarily an opportunistic populist. If he can score some brownie points with his russophile supporters and the same time score a nice boost to the local IT industry by inviting in highly qualified Russian experts, he will do so.
Spies being found doesn’t mean we should make it easier for them/more to get in.
Unless you plan to expel all Russian embassy personnel, you will not get rid of the primary entry vector for Russian spies.
