After Biden’s meltdown, the Democrats are hoping to reenergize people with a supposedly “progressive” pick for Kamala Harris’ running mate.

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    4 months ago

    Nice attack ad. Love how that url has nothing to show about these claims but instead just pushes someone else in your face who literally has zero chance of anything.

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      4 months ago

      The links are to the PSL presidential campaign, which shouldn’t be too surprising from a domain called votesocialist2024. The poster is meant to be agitational, to make you think critically.

      These claims are all either sourced in the poster or easily verifiable public record. Walz famously cracked down on the George Floyd protests. As in, in the city(ies) where Chauvin killed him. His record includes those vetoes. And it should really be no surprise to anyone that the Democratic ticket is Zionist, the party line is support for Israel and its genocide. The only national-level Dem that consistently voices opposition is Tlaib.

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        The poster is meant to be agitational, to make you think critically.

        No, it’s FUD. It’s purely to make you think negatively about walz. There’s no “critical thinking” involved here.

        But I’ll take whatever flaws he has over socialism. Tankies can get wrecked.

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      4 months ago

      Well, you are correct, in a way. The Harris/Walz ticket has a very large chance to commit genocide if elected. That’s something that Claudia & Karina have zero chance of doing.

      You should be proud!

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          Growing up I was told genocide was the most serious crime and we must ensure it never happens again.

          Now liberals are trying to do lesser-evil genocide.

          Personally, I think we should actually materially oppose it based on consistent principles. Perhaps liberals feel that Trump gives them the green light to be open, bloodthirsty genociders? I’m glad I don’t associate with them anymore.

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            I don’t “side” with anyone. Genocide is bad. I’m still going to do what I have to for avoiding making everything exceptionally worse by further enabling obviously more psychotic behavior, until such time as a better realistic solution is made available.

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              I don’t “side” with anyone.

              When Kamala was criticized for her Zionism during an ongoing genocide, your only reply was to insult the critic and go, “what about Trump?” Deflections like this are very common when someone doesn’t want to address a topic. Why don’t you want to address the topic of Kamala being a genocide supporter?

              Genocide is bad.

              Then why did you deflect when a public figure was criticized for supporting it? Wouldn’t the consistent thing to do be saying, “yeah you’re right”?

              I’m still going to do what I have to for avoiding making everything exceptionally worse by further enabling obviously more psychotic behavior, until such time as a better realistic solution is made available.

              So you are confirming exactly what I just said in my last comment. Lesser evilism support for genocide while telling yourself it isn’t. But when people who actually materially oppose it criticized the genocide-supporting candidate you’ve decided to support in the last two weeks, you deflected and insulted them.

              “Never again” except when it disagrees with vote shaming lesser evilism, eh?

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                4 months ago

                Quick hint, I never said Kamala good or that I’d vote for her.

                I am only being against Trump in my comments. You read in what you like. I’m just sick of the twats deciding to vote for Trump as some protest over Kamala/Biden Etc and was calling out the shit attack ad for what it was.

                Insult wasn’t deflecting, I did address the topic. Genocide bad, m’kay? The insult can stand alone if the person addressed to was going to vote Trump.

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                  Quick hint, I never said Kamala good or that I’d vote for her.

                  I am only being against Trump in my comments.

                  Absolutely false. You did not, “yes and” the person criticizing Kamala’s support for genocide. You said this: “But Trump won’t commit genocide? Grow up.”

                  So, obviously a dismissal of the criticism of Kamala by deflecting to Trump, as I’ve said a few times. And insulting the critic at the same time! I don’t think this is something I really need to explain. I think you know what your words mean.

                  But in case you just plain miscommunicated your sentiment (while being condescending!), I would recommend that you be clearer and more concrete in your statements.

                  You read in what you like.

                  What am I supposed to take away from this next quote of yours? “I’m still going to do what I have to for avoiding making everything exceptionally worse by further enabling obviously more psychotic behavior, until such time as a better realistic solution is made available.” This was you trying to defend your deflection and insult. How are you “avoiding” “further enabling obviously more psychotic behavior” by dumping on people critical of Kamala for her support for the genocide of Gaza?

                  Again, I think you know what your words mean. Can you not stand by them?

                  I’m just sick of the twats deciding to vote for Trump as some protest over Kamala/Biden Etc and was calling out the shit attack ad for what it was.

                  First of all, if you think PSL wants you to vote for Trump, you have absolutely no clue what this poster is about. Perhaps you should investigate more before believing you have a right to speak, let alone condescend.

                  Next, you are doing exactly what I said, lmao. You perceive any criticism of your Dem genociders as violating your lesser evilism stance on Trump.

                  Insult wasn’t deflecting, I did address the topic.

                  Of course it is deflecting. You tried to shift the conversation to Trump and lesser evilism. You did not address Kamala’s support for genocide. Your deflection is a very common line from Dems for decades, it is meant to terminate criticism and keep you nice and complacent. It even makes some people go out of their way to police others using this thought terminating cliche. Can you believe it?

                  Genocide bad, m’kay?

                  Then oppose it rather than defending those carrying it out.

                  The insult can stand alone if the person addressed to was going to vote Trump.

                  You are very confused.