Found on reddit. I’m told the reason for their visit is to intimidate the Haitian immigrant community there.

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    That’s what they think about you, too.

    How should we decide who’s right?

    Do all of us deserve to be run over by a car? What if we’re wearing some ridiculous costume? What if we’re armed? What if we’re calling for the eradication of a group of people because of their beliefs?

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        I’m calling for the eradication of their beliefs.

        I’m not so hung up on getting gratification from vengeance to think killing people is the only way to do that.

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            Do you think it’ll be less effective than running them over with your car? How do you imagine either of our scenarios playing out?

            When they threaten to do vile things, there absolutely should be a consequence. That doesn’t mean y’all having to lower yourselves to their level.

            I believe in you. Don’t run them over. Don’t go to prison. Live free to fight them other ways and other days. Embrace nuance. Be creative. Do good.

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          Their ideology is literally to eradicate races they consider undesirable. Their goal is to kill people.

          If someone walked up to you and told you that their goal in life is to kill your kids, your spouse, your siblings, and your parents, what in the world would you do?

          PS: the police aren’t doing anything because the guy “hasn’t done anything yet”.

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            Yeah, I’m not confident the cops are a better option than running them over. But citizens don’t have to jump right to murder to stop these people.

            I really hope if my family was threatened, I would have more options than killing that person.

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        What a sad and scary world you live in. I’m sorry.

        Please, keep your anger. It’s a good sign that you can tell things aren’t right. But be strategic. We need your emotion and enthusiasm to make this world better. There are so many ways to apply it. I hope you don’t limit it to violence.

        I’ll write it one more time in case you missed it: We should do all we can to fight fascism. I’m just saying, let’s keep the blood off our hands as long as we can. Let’s try lots of other ways first to shut them down.

        Then let’s fund schools, unionize and strike to take back power from the rich, protect the vulnerable, support diversity, have proportional representation and rank-choice voting. These (and more) are the things that prevent society from fascist infection.

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          How about you answer my questions, it’s very simple. YES or NO.

          1. Are you a Nazi?

          2. Are you a Nazi sympathizer?

          BONUS Question, Are you a troll?

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            If you’ve read what I wrote and don’t know yet, I’m assuming you won’t accept my answer here.

            But here you go:

            1. No
            2. No
            3. Sometimes
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                What evidence would you accept as proof my answers are true?

                Edit: How about this… Here are some of the words that have had the greatest impact on my life. Utah Phillips says Ammon Hennecy told him this:

                You came into the world armed to the teeth. With an arsenal of weapons, weapons of privilege, economic privilege, sexual privilege, racial privilege. You want to be a pacifist, you’re not just going to have to give up guns, knives, clubs, hard, angry words, you are going to have lay down the weapons of privilege and go into the world completely disarmed.

                No fascist would think there’s any grain of truth in those words.

                It’s ridiculously difficult to be a pacifist and keep fascists from existing. But there are many, many nonviolent ways to shut them down and prevent their growth. I’m up for the challenge for now. If I heard any compelling reason to change, I’d consider it.

                Edit 2:
                I thought of another one: I’ll contribute to your gofundme for legal funds if got to jail for killing a nazi. Just message me.

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                  Why don’t you link my comment stating that I’m going to kill nazi’s. You can’t, I didn’t say it. I’m done dealing with you, at this point you’re just a shitty troll. I’d even call you a bot, but you actually answered my questions.

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                    Wait, I really thought the “can’t fix” comment was to say the murder-by-car comment was justified. I missed your point then.

                    Do you think plowing over the people in the photo would be okay? And why or why not?

                    Others in here have equated me saying let’s not immediately resort to murder to be the same thing as me wanting to let them continue what they’re doing. I thought you were defending them. If that’s not what you were saying, I am sorry that I misunderstood.