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    4 months ago

    Yes you’re describing how capitalism works. Maybe you feel that you took a big risk and it paid off.

    The risk you took was the risk of losing your capital.

    There are many people out there who would not even notice that same amount of capital missing from their accounts.

    That’s the thing with systemic problems. It doesn’t mean everyone participating in the system is causing those problems, it means the system results in those outcomes. Systemic racism doesn’t mean everyone with authority is racist, systemic inequality under capitalism doesn’t mean every business owner has a private jet.

    Maybe you think you’re “a good capitalist” just like maybe you think there are good cops. That doesn’t mean capitalism and policing aren’t systemically problematic.

    We need to destroy the system and that means getting rid of people like you too, whether or not you think you’re justified in skimming wealth from your employees because you were poor once.

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      Your argument misses the nuance of how capitalism works. While systemic problems exist, that doesn’t mean the entire system is broken or that everyone within it is contributing to those problems. Many people in capitalism are working hard to create fairer practices and opportunities.

      Blaming all capitalists for systemic issues is too broad and dismisses the efforts of those trying to improve the system from within. Instead of tearing everything down, we should focus on making reforms that address these problems and build a more equitable system while preserving the benefits that capitalism offers.

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        did you miss where I explained to you that “systemic” doesn’t mean “everyone in the system acts like this?”

        Systemic means the rules of the system lead to outcomes which produce those issues.

        The forces of capitalism only work to optimize profit, whether that profit-seeking has positive outcomes or negative outcomes is a pure side effect.

        Tear everything down. Workers deserve to own the value they produce. There should be no private economy. You’re part of the problem. The benefits of “capitalism” are the benefits of technology and innovation and even those are filtered through the profit motive into corrupted garbage before they’re realized.

        There is no improving the system from within. Your strategy is to hope everyone is nice enough to forego profit when it means harm. Your strategy is to hope political will keeps up with capitalist regulatory capture. Your strategy is to believe that there are “enough good billionaires” that the table scraps the working class gets are enough that we feel comfortable.

        No, we’ll take it all. The owning class are parasites. The working class is the organism.

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          did you miss where I explained to you that “systemic” doesn’t mean “everyone in the system acts like this?”

          continues to blame and call business owners parasites

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            wow you’re dense…

            get one of your employees to explain it to you

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              I’ve already showed them this, they think you’re being rebellious for no reason. They’re happy with their lives.

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                and everyone clapped…

                I had a really good conversation with the concentration camp guard and he smiled at me, he’s waiting for the right time to ask his general to stop concentration camping. What a good guy, can’t wait for reform.

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                  You’re delusional to be comparing their jobs to those who have died in concentration camps. This mentality you have is giving me nut job vibes.

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                    4 months ago

                    you don’t seem to understand nuance so I’m demonstrating what systemic problems mean and how nice guys still contribute to those problems.

                    anyway, you’re beyond my patience.

                    parasite