• Azzu@lemm.ee
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    It’s funny just reading the headline… Experts warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it xD isn’t research in general just good

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      Not just that China’s research is increasing, but that the USA’s is declining. Context clues indicate that there isn’t one worldwide condition that would explain the decline in USA science, because China is still succeeding and even growing in science… So the decline of USA’s science research indicates a problem in the USA. That is a problem, wouldn’t you agree?

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          Problem for the USA

          The article is from a publication literally called “Scientific American”. Whom do you suspect the intended audience is?

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            It was posted to this international community. Regardless of the original intended audience, in this place the discussions should not assume nationality.

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              It was posted to this international community. Regardless of the original intended audience, in this place the discussions should not assume nationality.

              Sigh This place isn’t assuming nationality, nor am I. Please look back at the top of this thread to see what you’re replying to. A lemmy poster read the headline and didn’t understand why the headline was written that way. The headline was written that way because of the articles audience was the USA. Thats it. Thats all. This thread isn’t a USA vs the world thing. Its 12 words in a headline.

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                I don’t understand how you think you can argue this point, when the conversation is literally

                • why is it bad that X country is doing better
                • because USA is doing worse

                And so the title assumes that the reader is from the US and would surely agree that this development is bad.

                But you know this. You are arguing in bad faith.

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                  I don’t understand how you think you can argue this point, when the conversation is literally

                  • why is it bad that X country is doing better
                  • because USA is doing worse

                  I don’t know which thread you’re reading, but you’re not summarizing this thread. You’re having difficulty following apparently. Here’s the original post:

                  “It’s funny just reading the headline… Experts warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it xD isn’t research in general just good” This was posted by lemmy user: @[email protected]

                  And so the title assumes that the reader is from the US and would surely agree that this development is bad.

                  You’re right on this part. Your quote there, and my quote in prior posts which match that, are the answer to that original poster.

                  But you know this. You are arguing in bad faith.

                  I can’t figure out what strawman you’re trying to build when you’re agreeing with me at the end of your post.

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                    I don’t know which thread you’re reading, but you’re not summarizing this thread. You’re having difficulty following apparently. Here’s the original post:

                    “It’s funny just reading the headline… Experts warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it xD isn’t research in general just good” This was posted by lemmy user: @[email protected]

                    I am summarising this thread. This, from what you quoted:

                    warn that Chinese research is getting good? Like, is that a bad thing, or why do we have to be warned about it

                    is precisely what I was referring to with

                    • why is it bad that X country is doing better

                    You’re right on this part. Your quote there, and my quote in prior posts which match that, are the answer to that original poster.

                    …and then you proceeded to convey the same sentiment in the discussion:

                    the decline of USA’s science research indicates a problem in the USA. That is a problem, wouldn’t you agree?

                    The strawman I am talking to does not realise that they are being parochial and continues to argue instead of correcting their behaviour.