Honestly, I appreciate Kinzinger. I don’t agree with all of his points of view, but that’s kind of the point. He’s a legit person in politics who believes that people can only do the best they can to represent the politics of their constituents, AND have some damn backbone to say when things are going wrong. He sacrificed his political career trying to stop the MAGA bullshit, and I can really appreciate that. In the same vein of Biden, I truly hope they are interested in making government able to unify and get things done across party lines in a collaborative way, and I hope they are not the last of a dying breed.
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Dems always shifting to the right. How about prominent leftists take center stage? Real leftists
Edit: now watch how the Dems will be cheering on the Republicans tonight after screaming for years that they’re going to end democracy and destroy our country.
She’s already turned into a corporate Dem. She’s trying to become Pelosi 2.0
After grassroots pressure, AOC said in March that the Biden admin is complicit in an “unfolding genocide” in Gaza.
Now given a primetime appearance at the DNC, AOC forgets the whole genocide thing and falsely claims that Kamala Harris “is working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza.”
Edit: I used to talk to her before she was elected. She used to be very progressive but changed like they all do once elected. She was active on Reddit’s SandersforPresident sub.
First, there’s more than one issue on the minds of Americans. I hope you, like the gun rights people and the abortion people, can see that.
Second, the Biden administration and Harris, especially in the context of the DNC, are now different things so both statements could be true.
Third, what makes you say it’s untrue that Harris “is working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza.”?
And, what makes you say this is the only thing a politician has fabricated or misconstrued? I mean, you just sound like a delusional Trumper.March 3 https://www.npr.org/2024/03/03/1235712368/kamala-harris-gaza-ceasefire-israel-aid
Vice President Kamala Harris on Sunday called for an immediate, temporary cease-fire in Gaza to facilitate a hostage deal between Israel and Hamas, and pressed Israel to do more to increase the flow of aid to alleviate the “immense scale of suffering” among Palestinians. Her remarks are some of the strongest made by a senior U.S. official regarding the protection of civilians in Gaza.
The original draft of Harris’ speech, when it was sent to the National Security Council for review, was harsher on Israel about the dire humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip and the need for more aid than were the remarks she ultimately delivered, according to one of the current officials and the former official.
July 25 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315
Vice President Kamala Harris met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in private Thursday and followed it with a strikingly forceful call on his government to get a cease-fire deal done and ease the suffering of civilians in Gaza.
July 26 https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/politics/harris-netanyahu-israel-hamas-ceasefire/index.html
far-right members of the Israeli cabinet have pushed against a deal, criticizing pressure from Harris to secure one.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Monday that Israel has accepted a proposal to bridge differences holding up a cease-fire and hostage release in Gaza
Finally, if not AOC, who is “left enough” for you?
Since March. 6 months ago. What’s changed other than they keep sending money and weapons?
Again, most Americans have more than one issue on their minds. If all you care about is one thing, that’s great for you but you’re not having a conversation about whether a congress person being left enough.
Again, if not AOC, then who is left enough?
Again, most Americans have more than one issue on their minds.
Stopping genocide isn’t enough?!
No. Of course not. If that’s the only issue, or even top 20 issues, you think that matters to most people, you are either a very privileged, delusional, or malinformed person. In most polling, the country has been divided in half about the war to begin with.
July - https://news.gallup.com/poll/646955/disapproval-israeli-action-gaza-eases-slightly.aspx
Do you approve or disapprove of the military action Israel has taken in Gaza?
42% approve, 48% disapprove (+6%, -7% since March).For the third time, if AOC is not left enough, then who?
Here’s a thread about it if you actually care.
As I sit on AOC lying about Harris ‘working tirelessly towards a ceasefire’, the angrier I get. It’s not just a lie, it is complete historical and moral revisionism meant to cleanse Harris of any and all culpability in the genocide of the Palestinians.
But there’s more. A thread…
This helps me understand where you’re getting your information. Thanks.
Forgive me if I don’t give a flying fuck about what some “media critic” on “X” has to say.
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Actually, I’m not able to because X is paywalled. Nor do I care to read what some random on that shit platform has to say. If you have some actual reports from actual journalists that corroborate that Harris has done nothing, in contrast to the actual news reports I’ve offered, please share.
Here, thread unrolled:
Ok… that’s a wholly unsubstantiated opinion from some random nobody. Is this a joke?
As I sit on @AOC lying about Harris ‘working tirelessly towards a ceasefire’, the angrier I get. It’s not just a lie, it is complete historical and moral revisionism meant to cleanse Harris of any and all culpability in the genocide of the Palestinians.
But there’s more.
AOC is ostensibly speaking to young progressives when she says this — meaning she is weaponizing that positionality to bring votes for a woman who’s done nothing but back Israel & its genocide. And if Harris is ‘working tirelessly towards a ceasefire’ - then what has she been doing for the past ten months, as second in command?
What does Harris as VP have the power to do or not do…?
The Democrats are unwilling & unable to approach this contradiction because it dismantles Harris as a capable candidate. Jayapal told me she had just spoken to Harris that day (Saturday) that I spoke to her. There is no ‘tireless work towards a ceasefire’ happening with Harris.
Legit, how old are you? Ballpark at least.
Middle aged
Ah okay what a shame. Most go through this phase in their late teens and early twenties and then shortly after recognize the bigger picture.
Who said anything about being conservative? Interesting to falsely equate leftism with self-defeatist pyrrhic victories though. I’m pretty far left; I just understand the nature of entropy.
It’s weird how you meant this to be a damning post of the DNC but I’ll bet 99% of the up votes it’s getting are for people who like that there is some sanity across the isle who believe in country over party. That’s why I clicked on it. Good on Kinzinger. I’ll listen to him and Ms Grisham. Someone who can ditch their pride and go against their family and friends for the sake of truth has something to say to me.
It just proves the US is a centrist to right of center country. I hate it here.
I wish life was as simple as the terminally online say it is
With respect to the world, yes. No big surprise there. Relative to the bigotry and corporate surfdom we were heading to, seeing some light on the other side, you have to try and appreciate where we’re at. It’s January 1933 and Hitler might not make chancellor. LFG!!
How about prominent leftists take center stage? Real leftists
Let’s try this again…
LIKE WHO?Edit: It’s been a day and I’m still waiting to learn who is left enough.
I don’t understand the downvotes. Am I supposed to know the answer to this? If so, I apologize for being a dummy.COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHO IS A “REAL LEFTIST”??
Dude can’t answer a simple question.
Laughing because they’re avoiding answering this because it would lock them in. They’re still strategizing a way to squirm out of this lmao.
