• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Thread’s about how the party ignored the rights of trans people. And I’ll notice you ignored what I said about Palestinians. Human rights also includes foreign policy.

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      3 months ago

      Any defense of human rights is a defense of trans rights. I’m not sure why you find this confusing. Maybe you want these rights to be enumerated for pandering purposes?

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        Any defense of human rights is a defense of trans rights.

        Hogwash. It’s completely possible to defend human rights for some and not for others. Which is why you keep ignoring what I keep saying about Palestinians. How are their human rights holdin’ up? How are Democrats’ defense of human rights a defense for Palestinians’ rights?

        Oh yeah, they’re selling weapons for the genocide of Palestinians. Turns out, “any defense of human rights” is not the same thing as “defending all humans’ rights.”

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            3 months ago

            Ok, so you want me to be happy with a party that is concerned with human rights for only some people.

            If your support for human rights does not include Palestinians, how can anyone trust that it includes trans people without some indicator?

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              3 months ago

              Do they need to mention every single group whose rights they want to protect or are you able to read between the lines and look at the policies Democrat States have adopted these past 4 years vs Republican States?

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                3 months ago

                I do not trust Democrats not to move to the right, as they do so every chance they have. Failure to address things like trans rights specifically means they’re the next group under the bus.

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                  3 months ago

                  No, it doesn’t. Trans aren’t the only group being oppressed by Republicans and they’re not the biggest group either, women and ethnic minorities represent a much bigger part of the population and supporting them doesn’t alienate some electors because it’s not considered woke (or not as much) to do so, which openly supporting trans rights is.

                  People on the left will always find excuses to open the door to the right wing party because they’re looking for moral purity… The problem is that your definition of that purity would mean a party unable to get elected, so you’re better off accepting that some issues you care about won’t be front and center during the campaign even though the party still agrees with you.

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                    3 months ago

                    No, it doesn’t. Trans aren’t the only group being oppressed by Republicans and they’re not the biggest group either, women and ethnic minorities represent a much bigger part of the population

                    Yes, and they get mentioned because it’s not their turn under the bus yet.

                    People on the left will always find excuses to open the door to the right wing party because they’re looking for moral purity…

                    Centrists will always capitulate to the right and dismiss anyone who is upset about it with this “purity” bullshit.