Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

  • WamGams@lemmy.caEnglish
    213·
    3 months ago

    So if the political goals of the Palestinian government are to kill as many Palestinians as possible, why are the anti-Israel protests not a joint protest of both Israel and Palestine?

    Why is the role of Hamas minimized?

    You may not know the answer or be willing to say it, but I certainly know the answer and am under no obligation to not say it.

    • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.caEnglish
      131·
      3 months ago

      I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. The actions of Hamas are terrible, and inevitable due to the equally reprehensible actions of Israel. That still has no bearing on the definition of the word terrorism.

      • WamGams@lemmy.caEnglish
        210·
        3 months ago

        No, the actions of Hamas were not inevitable. That is absolving them of moral culpability.

        But thank you for proving my point that this is not a pro-Palestine movement, but rather an anti-Israeli movement.

        • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.caEnglish
          91·
          3 months ago

          Inevitable is perhaps too strongly worded. But it is very likely and completely unexpected. Netenyahu sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind, to the detriment of Israel and Israelis. Sure, there are movements such as Gandhi and Polish solidarity which were primarily non-violent, but they very much appear to be exceptions and not the rule. But I also love how the only point I raised against your statements is the only thing you haven’t addressed in responses to me.

          • WamGams@lemmy.caEnglish
            13·
            3 months ago

            Well I am glad you see a distinction between Gandhi and Hamas. Some of you guys I don’t think are capable of making that distinction.

            But no, nothing Israel has ever done justified Oct. 7th. Hamas did not do that to liberate the Palestinian people. They did it because Iran paid them to and they knew it would kill a lot of their own people.

            Gandhi’s goal wasn’t to get as many Indians killed as he could. Imagine if Hamas actually took inspiration from Gandhi though.

          • WamGams@lemmy.caEnglish
            23·
            3 months ago

            International law does not protect terrorism against civilians.

            Were you not aware of that?

              • WamGams@lemmy.caEnglish
                11·
                3 months ago

                I wasn’t sure you were. It seemed like you were trying to suggest that Oct. 7th was a legally protected action.

                What specific actions done by Hamas are you attempting to claim are legally protected?

                • kaffiene@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  I wasn’t talking about specific actions at all. You were responding to someone talking about whether the existence of Hamas was understandable. I agree with him that it is. Armed resistence against occupiers is to be expected and it’s protected by international law.