Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

  • Veneroso@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    3 months ago

    Pretty sure my take is the opposite.

    But yeah if you think that we were blameless on 9/11 disregards the history of US foreign politicy.

    And Israel? Pretty sure that the last 70 years of illegal occupation had nothing to do with October 7th, right? Or “self defense” lasting 11 months? Getting pretty close to operation Iraqi Freedom there bud.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      Whatever the US may have done does not justify the killing of thousands of civilians. If that was the way the world worked than any civilian deaths the US inflicted after 9/11 are also justified by the same logic.

      Rationalizations of terrorist acts is really insane. There’s no moral high ground you can gain from this, the best you can accomplish is to say “both sides are bad” which accomplishes nothing.

      Far better to denounce terrorism and work to make a distinction between the terrorists and people that have harmed who are not terrorists.

      • Veneroso@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        How many millions did we kill in revenge?

        Many many times more. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

        Israel is doing the same thing now. Only not even pretending to rebuild a nation.

        • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
          11·
          3 months ago

          But yeah if you think that we were blameless on 9/11 disregards the history of US foreign politicy.

          This is where “But yeah if you think those countries weren’t entirely blameless disregards these country’s support of terrorism”

          I won’t though, because unlike you I don’t think there’s any valid rationalization for deliberately targeting civilians. That would just be me lowering myself to the level you lowered yourself to by rationalizing the targeting of civilians.

          But you don’t really have any kind of argument against killing civilians because you’ve already suggested that it’s acceptable to do so.

          Many many times more. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

          Why don’t you apply this to 9/11 and October 7? What al Qaeda and Hamas did are an “eye for an eye” mentality aren’t they? Why not just do the sensible thing and denounce these “eye for an eye” actions as inexcusable?