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    4 months ago

    No need for the strawman, you know full well I never said Trump, a conservative neoliberal, was good for the working class. Get lost lib.

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      4 months ago

      You know, without any shred of doubt, that any vote not for a democrat is one that helps trump.

      No need to pretend with me.

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        That’s not how logic works buddy. My non support for A does not imply my support of B. The same way you not supporting option C does not imply you support B. It simply implies that you support A.

        Votes are earned, not deserved.

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          My non support for A does not imply my support of B

          Literally exactly how a two-party system works.

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            This isn’t a two party system. The only thing that makes it a two party system is YOUR continued support of the same party over and over again. If you’d stop doing the same thing over and over again we wouldn’t be here. I’m doing my part, you aren’t.

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              Yes, it is effectively a two party system. Until the day that all parties have an opportunity to be treated equally, that will be the case. You know this. Why do you pretend not to?

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                The only thing that makes it a two party system is YOUR continued support of the same party over and over again.

                That’s on you bud, not on me.

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                  Yes, it’s on me and hundreds of millions of people. Most of which are unreachable with your canvassing and a huge percentage of which are needed to make any positive difference whatsoever.

                  Unfortunately for you, empowering trump and Israel is on you, because you can easily see that your actions empower them. It doesn’t take a soothsayer to know that Stein will get way less than 2% of the vote, 2% that will help trump but gives her zero chance of winning.

                  You won’t move the needle toward third parties but you will be responsible for death and suffering, and then you’ll say it was not your fault even though you did something you knew would lead to death and destruction. But you didn’t care, did you?

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                    Yes, it’s on me and hundreds of millions of people.

                    Correct.

                    Unfortunately for you, empowering trump

                    That is entirely on neoliberalism creating the material conditions necessary for fascism to exist, and siding with the right whenever the egemony is threatened. We see that clear as day with the recent election in France for example.

                    and Israel

                    The Democratic party needs no help from anyone for that one. Not even the GOP. You’re projecting hard.

                    It doesn’t take a soothsayer to know that Stein will get way less than 2% of the vote, 2% that will help trump but gives her zero chance of winning.

                    Why do you assume that those voters would vote for the democratic party exactly? Again, a vote is earned not deserved.

                    You won’t move the needle toward third parties

                    I know I won’t, but you could. You don’t want too, that’s different.