This is what needs to happen. All these groups that relied on Reddit as a “transparent” and safe method to host forums need to move out. All that’s happening here is that Reddit feels like they own all this data and information and thinks they can charge for it.
Happy to see Jellyfin making the move that is beyond “going to the next Reddit” and actually taking ownership of their data and community to safeguard it.
I like that they’re moving to something self-hosted. I don’t like that it’s a non-threaded forum again. I liked Reddit and do like kbin / Lemmy because the structure of the threads is preserved much better, like it was with Usenet or mailing lists before. I think a better approach would have been to host such an instance on their own.
What do you mean? They use a MyBB which is a plain old thread-style forum.
I wonder if this could mean a resurgence of multiple old forums.
There’s a lot of nostalgia in those old forums but it is nice to be able to take your reputation around the interwebs with you. Not to mention that a lot of those old forum operators had to be technical on some level to maintain their instances.
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Good. hardwareswap is moving to Discord for now too. Which is slightly better
Discord is worse than Reddit for anything other than chatting. You can’t view a Discord without an account, Discords aren’t indexed by search engines or protected by google cache / archive.org, Discord’s API usage policy is even more restrictive than Reddit’s new one (it’s completely against the TOS to create third party discord clients at all)…
Being able to look at the historical threads on a subreddit like hardwareswap is really important for learning the value of what you have. A format where every offer gets its own collapsible conversation thread is much better than every negotiator popping up in sequence.
Discord is fine for Voice Chatting. But it’s not very good for large communities and looking up old (but good) content.
And you only get limited servers per account. And archive.org coverage is important since thats the one location that we can rely on for old data
Yup, agreed. Discord is only good for chatting. I do not find Discord to be a good place to share information or to even use their ‘forum’ channel option.
Hate discord with a passion. I don’t know why all the “new-age” open-source projects are also moving to Discord as their primary forum. The search is abysmal, there’s no way to go back to previous postings in a sane manner.
I reluctantly use discord because some of my favorite application developers use that (Immich, Omnivore, Logseq) but it’s just a massive pain in the ass and every time I spend even 10 minutes there, it feels like I’ve spent hours looking into the dark mayhem, searching for a needle in the haystack.
Communities move to Discord because it is a catchment: you can set up a server for free on a moment’s notice, which gives you a place to hold a decent proportion of your community for continuity. The mod tools are also sufficient for basic use. You’re right that it’s not a replacement for a forum - terrible for archival and search purposes.
it feels like I’ve spent hours looking into the dark mayhem, searching for a needle in the haystack.
It feels like digging through someone else’s IRC chatlogs in search of an answer.
Agreed, discord feels like it’s more for meme sharing and info graphics than actual long group discussions
Discord also excels for punitive struggle sessions where someone is chosen to be “it” and is then verbally beaten by a rotating cast for hours.
If the enshittification theory is correct, Discord will eventually turn on their users too.
Yea i used it temporarily for my communities for like a couple days until I found kbin
Of course it will. It’s just a matter of time.
How is Discord better? It’s also a walled garden that doesn’t allow 3rd party clients, and it’s just a horrible website to run a forum like this. In fact it’s just horrible all around.
element.io (based on Matrix framework) seems to be fediverse alternative of Discord, IMO
Element is only one of the clients for the matrix network. And as long as it follows the standard you can use other clients, too
The Matrix Code of Conduct actively condones harassment as long as the Matrix people dislike your politics, which makes all the official forums unsafe for technical coordination.
The upvote button is stuck for me. It doesn’t register my click.
Try prizing it up with a screwdriver :)
