As far as my understanding go, Private State Tokens is supposed to be a huge improvement over cookies in terms of security and privacy, which make ask about the reason they are not implemented on Firefox.

  • @CountVon
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    5113 days ago

    Private State Tokens are Google’s implementation of the IETF Privacy Pass protocol. Apple has another implementation of the same protocol named Private Access Tokens. Mozilla has taken a negative position against this protocol in its current form, and its existing implementations in their current forms. See here for their blog post on the subject, and here for their more in-depth analysis.

    • Justin
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      113 days ago

      It seems like Mozilla’s main complaint here is that privacy pass encourages centralization of captcha providers. But captcha providers are already highly centralized?? 90% of captchas are Google.

      • @CountVon
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        210 days ago

        Tl;Dr the protocol requires there to be trusted token providers that issue the tokens. Who do you suppose are the trusted providers in the Google and Apple implementations? Google and Apple respectively, of course. Maybe eventually there would be some other large incumbents that these implementers choose to bless with token granting right. By its nature the protocol centralizes power on the web, which would disadvantage startups and smaller players.

  • @[email protected]
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    2513 days ago

    The web needs ways to establish and convey trust signals which show that a user is who they say they are

    Because it’s just a convenient way to track people, confirm they are not bots, so that information can be sifted and sold.