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      Yes, it’s funny calling out that attitude from 4chan but also it’s funny that it’s posted here

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        It’s like watching the browns play the raiders…you kind of just want everyone in the discussion to burn.

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    The thing people who disagree with should die: “Maybe let’s not be literal genociding facists.”

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      Try posting “Maybe let’s not be literal genociding fascists.” in any city sub discussing homeless people or r/europe discussing roma.

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        From the stories I’ve heard about Roma, they’ve worked very hard to be so disliked.

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          That’s cause most stories you hear about them are based on hearsay, stereotypes, the effects of being pushed to the fringe of society, and racism.

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            I was thinking of all the stories from people who’ve been victims of a crime perpetrated by them, or social workers etc who have dealt with them.

            But sure, I guess that’s all hearsay.

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                It’s genuinely frightening to me that so much European rhetoric against Roma people sounds like 1950s US-era rhetoric against desegregation. Like the US is incredibly racist, and Europeans still somehow find ways to shock me over how they talk about an entire ethnic group.

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                  Or treatment of indigenous people. “We need to take their children away so they can be educated in a safe environment (and not grow up like that)” is not uncommon.

                  Encouraging people to take away a group’s children for the purpose of destroying that group is a violation of the Genocide Convention btw.

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              I’ve been bullied by a Roma student. Yet I don’t blame the entire ethnic group because one Roma person bullied me, you racist donkey.

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            Man, point one of that pinned comment is beyond tone deaf. Basically saying your personal experience doesn’t count, because statistically…

            Yeah, not going to bother if that’s his attitude.

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              That’s how you make scientific conclusions… don’t like it? Take it up with the statisticians.

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      be genociding liberals instead! #votebluenomatterwho

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    What’s the statement being disagreed with? This is just “all political opinions are valid” bullshit. There are some truly horrific political standpoints out there.

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      I got a 30 day suspension from /r/news for calling Antifa “a violent organization”. Got down voted to hell and called a Nazi sympathizer… I’ve only ever voted Democrat.

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        Is Antifa an actual organization? I thought it was kind of an ad hoc moniker.

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        And antifa can be violent, though it’s not really an organization. Wikipedia describes it as a movement. And given the fact that fascists have ruined every country where they took power, violence against them is wholly justified.

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          But their idealized version of political control is just fascism by a different group of ultra wealthy people

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            Lol you don’t know a thing about antifa…tell me what’s their idealized version of political control again?? Lmfao.

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            Antifa is a politically diverse group, only defined by being opposed to fascism, as sane people should be. If you were to ask 2 antifascists about how society should be run, you’d likely get 2 different answers. Same as for any group not defined by support for a political ideology.

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        I pointed out that Kyle Rittenhouse had multiple people trying to kill him, and was actively running away from all three people he shot.

        That went well.

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          Yeah it’s not like decades of school shooter drills ingrained the idea that you attack a random guy waving a gun or anything …

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            First, this wasn’t in a school. Second, I don’t think attacking the gunman while unarmed is part of those drills.

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          How I unpopularly say it “Kyle Rittenhouse is a dumb sack of shit that did us a favor and took out 3 other even worse sacks of shit”. He didn’t go to prison because he accidentally did society a favor, but a lot of people are scared to admit that.

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        Second sentence is a clear lie if the first sentence is true. Can’t be both a Nazi simp and a Democrat.

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          Didn’t know not cowardly falling in line with a bunch of loser trust fund babies pretending like they know how to run a country would be considered “simping for Nazis”. I have yet to hear an intelligent argument come from Antifas rioting because they have the emotional and mental capacity of two year old on crack.

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            The fact that your characterization of anti-fascists is pulled straight from Tucker Carlson’s ass and in no way based in reality, yeah, you’re not a Democrat and you’re not a good troll either.

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        I have a friend who hangs out with ANTIFA to punch Nazis. He does it for the symbolism, makes him feel like a hero when he is violent. No thanks.

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            Yeah let make punching Nazis great again. Not cuz we disagree but because they’re already coming to punch us.

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            He is a cool guy but what the fuck. Senselesd traumatizing violence and nothing really changes.

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                So I cannot disagree with them without using violence that makes me no better than them? How sad this sounds.

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                  Ok Concern Troll.

                  Edit: wait a minute. On your profile, you have “Once you’ve been to Gaza, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Benjamin Netanyahu to death with your bare hands.”

                  Ok, fuck right off. What Netanyahu is doing in Gaza is the same shit the Nazis did to the Jews and other “undesirables”. You don’t get to act like we can debate the Nazis away while calling for violence against people you personalty don’t like.

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          Big brain time… maybe trading one form of violent politics for another form of violent politics isn’t the answer, but I get why both Nazis and Antifa wouldn’t want to listen to Ghandi and MLKs message.

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      The problem is if you are on one political side of the fence the entire other side is immediately labeled as bots.

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    4channer likely leaving out the part where it wasn’t “everyone who disagrees with me” but actually just “Nazi scum” and he was offended. Nazis love to play the victim card publicly while wishing death on minorities in private.

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    Except Reddit bans you if you so much as suggest someone stubs their toe. The rules against “advocating violence” have become so broadly interpreted in the last few years.

    Lemmy is significantly more tolerant of this kind of posting

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      I was banned from my first Lemmy instance for disagreeing with a political statement. In 11 years I never got banned from reddit, go figure.

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          Can’t do any crimes if everyone is dead. By your logic we should start poisoning the water.

          Who else is on your list that we should strip of basic human rights? Rapists? How about killers? Thieves? Anyone in politics?

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            Sorry didn’t realize there was some grey area around the morality of child molesters. You know, people who have by definition molested children.

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              No friend, the gray area is about execution. Do who else is on your death note?

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                  Yeah exactly so I was asking who else you would include other than child molesters. Or is that where you draw the execution line?