• TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Yah, if perpetuating systemic racism, imperialism and oppression is a deal breaker on a candidate, there is and will not be an American presidential candidate that it is appropriate to vote for. None.

          But as Lenin said, we must participate in bourgeois elections, though we can’t expect them to bring results, lest they be dominated entirely by the bourgeoisie.

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            It sucks, but we need a functioning democracy if we want to make progress.

            Make sure your mask is secure before helping others.

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              I think the trajectory of things are generally positive, but glacially slow, especially considering all the harm that gets perpetuated while waiting for that slow progress.

              I think that can be gut wretchingly frustrating for the newly radicalized. So I sympathize with the people who say it’s abhorrent and not enough. Because it is abhorrent. And it’s not enough. But we must be pragmatic in our actions. America simply doesn’t have the class consciousness necessary for sweeping overnight change, yet.

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              She has absolutely zero chance of winning because of first past the post.

              You know that, right?

              She also supports ongoing US imperialism, oppression and genocide, just not in Palestine. You realize that, right?

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                  Her policies say she will remove most US bases, not all. We still need some imperialism after all.

                  Her platform mentioned ending forced prison labor but not revoking the 13th.

                  She says she will support land back initiatives, but does that mean returning Manhattan? Absolutely not.

                  Stein’s policies are very progressive, but she still exists within America and it’s inherent imperialist and colonialist nature.

                  She also has zero chance of winning. Do you see a path to victory for Stein? Can you outline it?

                  Let’s imagine for a moment that there is no Jill Stein. Do you think there is a materialistic difference between a Harris and Trump presidency? Do you think one is preferable to the other?

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                    Imperialism is when base on place people want you out.

                    Stein wins when people stop supporting Genocide. Let’s have faith in humanity.

                    I literally don’t consider people supporting Genocide as candidates.