With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
    244·
    2 months ago

    Even if you assume she isn’t a bad faith actor, she’s still objectively failed to pass the one thing the world needs, the Green New Deal, and environmentalism is in the worst shape it’s been in decades.

    That’s not all her fault, but her protest candidacy weirdness put Trump in office the first time instead of spending that time and effort on actual policy so…

    Fuck off already?

    • SeattleRain@lemmy.worldEnglish
      624·
      2 months ago

      Haha oh really. It had nothing to do with Hilary being the worst candidate ever? The authoritarian electoral college founded to preserve slavery? The rampant voter suppression by Republicans that Democrats refuse to stop. It was all her fault huh?

      • Scirocco@lemm.ee
        121·
        2 months ago

        Certainly if she has been trying to effect real change in a realistic way, rather than an egocentric impossible run at the presidency…

        Things would have been different. She was one of many straws, which if subtracted, would have prevented trump

        So for that and that alone, she and the rest of the greens can fuck right off.

        See the No Labels folks for a more common sense way to be activist on national level politics.

        Greens would be great if they would focus on good, winnable races from the bottom up…

        What that called again?? Uhh ‘grass roots’

        • SeattleRain@lemmy.worldEnglish
          210·
          2 months ago

          She funded an investigations that showed Hilary had won a state that went to Donald Trump. But sure it’s her that doesn’t care about democracy not the Democrats that rolled over on not one but two elections where they likely won.

          • Scirocco@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 months ago

            I’ll agree that Dems have given up way too easily, mostly based on naive “for the good of the country” white knighting.

            It probably didn’t start with Al Gore and the hanging chads, but that would have been a good time to realize that sometimes these fights are existential

            Doesn’t change the fact that Stein is currently a russian-funded spoiler and she’s a drag on the Greens and does great disservice to all of the non-major parties.

            I hope No Labels and other serious ‘third paries’ spend time focusing on voting reform like RCV or similar. Of course, many nerds will (probably correctly) claim that RCV is flawed in whatever way and we should try to move to some other even more complicated system. And then nothing will happen and we will continue to be stuck in a bi-party system with smaller factions only ever having the opportunity to act as spoilers in national or even state-wide races.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
        11·
        2 months ago

        All her fault, no, but if she was a real progressive she would have learned a lesson and made a play for a lower office. But it’s very clear that’s not what she’s being paid to do.