Ukraine's National Coordination Center for Cyber Security on September 20 banned the usage of the Telegram messenger app for state officials, military personnel, and employees of key infrastructure, citing security issues.
Tl;dr: big name services are to be avoided as much as possible, but even if I use alternatives like signal, telegram, simplex and such, I wouldn’t say I trust them since they are made by humans, no matter how much the fans defend them.
As far as I’m concerned, no messenger is 100% safe, there will always be one reason or another to suspect a backdoor, man in the middle, your messages being spied inside the server or the host (a remainder that very few people can host their own things for one reason or another), whatever, you name it.
It gets increasingly more suspicious the moment multiple people suddenly appear to attack one service and sing praises to another, specially if they ignore your needs or the chances to move that group of people you need inside that new app.
At least we can count on big corpo apps to be compromised, anything meta, tiktok, microsoft, apple or google; nothing to be done about it since most normal people are afraid of improvement and just stick to what they already know.
I use telegram because of how it works (like, it fills my needs); the pretty stuff and the design allowed me to bring my family and some people I know into it. Signal didn’t really had pretty things back then (nowadays I have no idea since all the fans yell at me is about it’s privacy and that I shouldn’t question any further) and was complicated to setup, no way I could bring anyone over.
I’ve been looking into SimpleX but it’s still not where I could convice anyone to jump over… And I would still need use someone else’s host, so I wouldn’t say I trust it completely.
Honestly curious, what was missing on Signal and what was complicated?
I can’t even remember the sign up process and never felt I was missing out on features, at least not on features available elsewhere
I’m speaking waaaaay far at the beginning so my mind is foggy as fuck, but there was something about configuration and messages not being sent if the host wasn’t correct, I think you had to configure the host or something, it put away a lot of normal users (with good reason) who only wanted to install an app and talk.
Also it had nothing pretty about it, text only in a time when Telegram had gifs, was already adding stickers and shit, so it being complicated and having nothing pretty made it impossible for me to bring normal people into it.
I know it has changed a lot since then, but I stopped paying attention after that and with the time they got super buddy-buddy with meta for a while and how hostile their fanbase is against anything else… I dunno, it left a terrible impression so I rather keep searching for something else, right now I’m waiting for SimpleX to pretty-up so I can attempt to bring people over (it’s gonna take years since they first need to take it to a better state, but so far so good).
Tl;dr: big name services are to be avoided as much as possible, but even if I use alternatives like signal, telegram, simplex and such, I wouldn’t say I trust them since they are made by humans, no matter how much the fans defend them.
As far as I’m concerned, no messenger is 100% safe, there will always be one reason or another to suspect a backdoor, man in the middle, your messages being spied inside the server or the host (a remainder that very few people can host their own things for one reason or another), whatever, you name it. It gets increasingly more suspicious the moment multiple people suddenly appear to attack one service and sing praises to another, specially if they ignore your needs or the chances to move that group of people you need inside that new app.
At least we can count on big corpo apps to be compromised, anything meta, tiktok, microsoft, apple or google; nothing to be done about it since most normal people are afraid of improvement and just stick to what they already know.
I use telegram because of how it works (like, it fills my needs); the pretty stuff and the design allowed me to bring my family and some people I know into it. Signal didn’t really had pretty things back then (nowadays I have no idea since all the fans yell at me is about it’s privacy and that I shouldn’t question any further) and was complicated to setup, no way I could bring anyone over.
I’ve been looking into SimpleX but it’s still not where I could convice anyone to jump over… And I would still need use someone else’s host, so I wouldn’t say I trust it completely.
It’s basically a pick your poison kind of thing.
Honestly curious, what was missing on Signal and what was complicated? I can’t even remember the sign up process and never felt I was missing out on features, at least not on features available elsewhere
I’m speaking waaaaay far at the beginning so my mind is foggy as fuck, but there was something about configuration and messages not being sent if the host wasn’t correct, I think you had to configure the host or something, it put away a lot of normal users (with good reason) who only wanted to install an app and talk. Also it had nothing pretty about it, text only in a time when Telegram had gifs, was already adding stickers and shit, so it being complicated and having nothing pretty made it impossible for me to bring normal people into it.
I know it has changed a lot since then, but I stopped paying attention after that and with the time they got super buddy-buddy with meta for a while and how hostile their fanbase is against anything else… I dunno, it left a terrible impression so I rather keep searching for something else, right now I’m waiting for SimpleX to pretty-up so I can attempt to bring people over (it’s gonna take years since they first need to take it to a better state, but so far so good).