Not to be taken seriously as having a chance to win is different than representing the views of a sub-group of Americans accurately.
We see plenty of sports teams lose year after year and don’t ask why people are still fans, do we? Their values haven’t changed just because their side loses, they still believe that’s the right team to back.
While third party votes wont make a third party candidate win the presidency, it absolutely has an effect on public opinion and discussion, evidenced by how many of these stories are coming out each day bashing third party voters.
It seems absurd to me that democrats think third party voters will respond to attacks on their character, when the reason they wont vote democrat is because of the character democrats display.
Turns out its not hard to hide the source of money, and politicians need money to run campaigns. The democrats and republicans both have their fair share of illicit donations, that’s entirely legal in America. I don’t really see your point? They all shouldn’t do it.
Also, you seem to think the only third party is the green party, which is interesting.
Russia spends money on more than just the presidential race. They and their oligarchs donate to both democrats and republicans from local to federal elections.
Israel does the same thing as well, they donate to whoever is pro-Israel, and campaign against anyone anti-Israel.
So again, why is that a problem for the Green party but not the democrats or republicans?
If Americans don’t want foreigners to affect their election, don’t make it legal to do so then.
I’ve yet to see any evidence to support the accusation that democrats are taking Russian money. Democrats also aren’t also using Trump’s lawyers in defense of accusatory cases against them.
This whatabotism of yours is disruptive to the topic. I’m staying within the wheelhouse of the discussion. You, are not.
If you want to discuss the corruption of ALL political parties, start a new post on it. But I’m not about entertaining people that wish to derail the conversation with bOtH siDeS rhetoric.
Okay well prove me wrong, wheres all the evidence that the green party is taking Russian money. All i’ve seen anyone post is a picture of the presidential nominee at a table with Putin. Is there anything else?
Now, be sure to go ahead and attack all these sources before you even read anti of what they say… because we all know it stands in open defiance of your cognitive dissonance.
Don’t worry, I read all of them. Why don’t you quote out the evidence that Jill Stein is working for the Russians for me big guy, since I saw no evidence.
Your first URL even seems to agree there is no evidence, so thank you for that:
"Stein has not been accused of wrongdoing or colluding with the Russians. But her political views often align with the Kremlin and mirror talking points heard on Russian state TV: She claims the American political system is rigged, opposes the notion of American exceptionalism, is a vocal critic of US military operations overseas and downplays the impact of Russian meddling in the 2016 election. "
The two from NBC have no evidence that the Green party worked with Russia on anything. They talk about how Russia thought it useful to promote her to minority groups, so did similar propaganda as they did for Trump.
The trump quote, I am not sure what that’s supposed to prove. Trump agreeing with you might not be the own you think it is. For me personally, I have no idea what Trump actually believes. I don’t know if he was just grandstanding, waving his dick around, or if he actually believes what hes saying. I don’t think that qualifies as evidence.
You know what is funny though, you using similar catch phrases to Trump. Is Shill Stein supposed to be clever? Does it help you remember shes the one you don’t like cause shes a shill?
Not to be taken seriously as having a chance to win is different than representing the views of a sub-group of Americans accurately.
We see plenty of sports teams lose year after year and don’t ask why people are still fans, do we? Their values haven’t changed just because their side loses, they still believe that’s the right team to back.
While third party votes wont make a third party candidate win the presidency, it absolutely has an effect on public opinion and discussion, evidenced by how many of these stories are coming out each day bashing third party voters.
It seems absurd to me that democrats think third party voters will respond to attacks on their character, when the reason they wont vote democrat is because of the character democrats display.
I don’t know how many sports teams that are taking Russian money and exist to essential fuck over the entire sport that would continue to have fans.
Oh… and politics isn’t a fucking sport.
Turns out its not hard to hide the source of money, and politicians need money to run campaigns. The democrats and republicans both have their fair share of illicit donations, that’s entirely legal in America. I don’t really see your point? They all shouldn’t do it.
Also, you seem to think the only third party is the green party, which is interesting.
Russia has made no secret of wanting to install Trump in the white hose. They’re paying Shill Stein to spoil the election for the democrats.
What more do you need? I’m specifically talking about The Green Party.
Russia spends money on more than just the presidential race. They and their oligarchs donate to both democrats and republicans from local to federal elections.
Israel does the same thing as well, they donate to whoever is pro-Israel, and campaign against anyone anti-Israel.
So again, why is that a problem for the Green party but not the democrats or republicans?
If Americans don’t want foreigners to affect their election, don’t make it legal to do so then.
I’ve yet to see any evidence to support the accusation that democrats are taking Russian money. Democrats also aren’t also using Trump’s lawyers in defense of accusatory cases against them.
This whatabotism of yours is disruptive to the topic. I’m staying within the wheelhouse of the discussion. You, are not.
If you want to discuss the corruption of ALL political parties, start a new post on it. But I’m not about entertaining people that wish to derail the conversation with bOtH siDeS rhetoric.
Okay well prove me wrong, wheres all the evidence that the green party is taking Russian money. All i’ve seen anyone post is a picture of the presidential nominee at a table with Putin. Is there anything else?
There’s a lot more going on than just Shill Stein taking their money.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/30/politics/jill-stein-russia-documents-senate-request/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696
She’s being supported by pro-Stein Russian social media in attempts to help Trump:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna951166
And is praised by Trump for dividing the vote.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1804659187923996688
Now, be sure to go ahead and attack all these sources before you even read anti of what they say… because we all know it stands in open defiance of your cognitive dissonance.
Don’t worry, I read all of them. Why don’t you quote out the evidence that Jill Stein is working for the Russians for me big guy, since I saw no evidence.
Your first URL even seems to agree there is no evidence, so thank you for that: "Stein has not been accused of wrongdoing or colluding with the Russians. But her political views often align with the Kremlin and mirror talking points heard on Russian state TV: She claims the American political system is rigged, opposes the notion of American exceptionalism, is a vocal critic of US military operations overseas and downplays the impact of Russian meddling in the 2016 election. "
The two from NBC have no evidence that the Green party worked with Russia on anything. They talk about how Russia thought it useful to promote her to minority groups, so did similar propaganda as they did for Trump.
The trump quote, I am not sure what that’s supposed to prove. Trump agreeing with you might not be the own you think it is. For me personally, I have no idea what Trump actually believes. I don’t know if he was just grandstanding, waving his dick around, or if he actually believes what hes saying. I don’t think that qualifies as evidence.
You know what is funny though, you using similar catch phrases to Trump. Is Shill Stein supposed to be clever? Does it help you remember shes the one you don’t like cause shes a shill?
Does it help you see how idiotic and backwards you’re being if I switch out a few nouns in your statement?
Other countries have not made it legal for outside nations to lobby in their countries. That’s an American thing.
What is your point again? You can turn my statement into an ad lib and call me stupid?