• Matombo@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    10 hours ago

    Fun fact: Being carried away doing absolutly nothing (litteraly, with that being the reason you are carried away) already counts as violence against the police in the german crime statistics

  • python@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    edit-2
    13 hours ago

    The translation is off, “gewaltbereit” doesn’t mean violent, but more something along the lines of “willing/ready to do violence”

      • python@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        19
        ·
        12 hours ago

        It still kinda implies that she has possibly already done violence, but the meaning is more about being capable of doing violence in the future

      • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        12 hours ago

        Fits not really. In Germany, such terms as “possibly” are not used. Their meaning is considered equal to “everything is possible, because nothing is known”.

  • NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    43
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    13 hours ago

    Wow that’s a low bar for violence. I expect all contact sports to be banned before the weekend.

    • Melchior@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      11 hours ago

      She was part of a relativly small protest in Berlin, in which some started throwing glass bottles on the police, burned a bunch of trash cans and threw some liquid on a tv team near the protests.

      • Saleh@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 hours ago

        Some started, aftervthe police stormed into the protest violently to do arbitrary arrests.

        since a few month at the protests in Berlin it is normal for multiple people to be injured so severly, that they need an ambulance, people to be choked unconscious by police, police denying access for doctors to injured people, police randomly hitting, shoving, kicking people and of course beating people up that are arrested.

        All of these are documented on video. The police deliberately escalates to violence, while present press from pro zionist, racist media outlets like Axel Springer or Tagesspiegel conveniently ignore the police violence to paint the protests as aggressive afterwards.

        Oh amd plus points for the police to target teenagers and women, to ensure people to get aggressive, when they see grown men violently attacking boys and girls. weighing half of their weight.

        • Melchior@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 hours ago

          If you want to show police violence, it is incredibly important for the protest not get violent itself. Thunberg being part of it, meant more media then normal and 400 protestors is low enough for everybody to stay on message.

          • Saleh@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            7 hours ago

            If you are attacked by Police there is two options. Get beaten up and be called violent for resisting arrest or get beaten up slightly less by fighting back and get called violent.

            The goal of the police, the nationalist mayor of Berlin (he thinks the name of someome should be deciding about who is a “real” German and who is “only” a German citizen) and the authoritarian interior ministers is to beat the protestors up so much, that they stop protesting. It is a classic authoritarian violent repressive strategy. They tried to get the courts to ban protests altogether, but the courts aren’t put in line yet. There is complicit media outlets, similar to fox news in the anglosphere.

            There is people who seek fights as a form of protest in Berlin, but this is in non announced actions or after the police violently ended announced demonstrations. There is videos of these where they shoot fireworks and put barricades on the streets. But these are very different from the regular protests and i would be extremely suprised if Thunberg has anything to do with these.

    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      25
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Her crime was speaking out against the Machine. So to fight back, they label her as violent, because she threatens the very thing they hold dear: blind conformance.

        • bestboyfriendintheworld
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          11 hours ago

          I don’t think she was violent herself. The protest was small with about 400 people though. So she knows her comrades.

          • Xanis@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            10 hours ago

            That’s not how this works. This is assuming it was premeditated, planned, they went in to become violent. This in no way means she is or may become violent herself. Especially when we have to assume any protest has at least one or two rabble-rousers.

            • bestboyfriendintheworld
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              10 hours ago

              The groups that organized the protest are well known for their antics. Most leftist groups in Berlin don’t cooperate with some of them because they’re brain dead antisemitic tankies that violently attack leftist projects.

              A protest under the “glory to the resistance” on October 7th glorifies the violence and massacre of October 7th 2023. Of course it’s pro violence.

              • Saleh@feddit.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                ·
                edit-2
                8 hours ago

                This is false. The police is escalating violence at the prptests to paint them as violent. People resisting intimidation by an authoritarian police state, is a hallmark of antifascism.

                Still the protest was much smaller on Monday than protests on Sunday with thousands of people, because it was Monday first of all and second of all the police heavily advertised their arsenal, including Snipers, This intimidated away some people like families with children.

                Meanwhile a pro-Israeli “leftist” protest on Saturday only achieved 500 participants after mobilising for a month in all of Germany.

                These “Antideutsch” are often called “Ultradeutsch” by their critics now because they are anti muslim racists, cheer on police violence and demand more slaughter of Arabs and Palestinians. They claim to be Antifa, while being deeply ingrained in the German state and its suppression systems. They often hold positions in political think tanks, “antidiscrimination” NGOs and cultural institutions. Aside from racism there they perpetrate antisemitism against Jews critical of Israel by cancelling them, taking away their funding or in cases like the “bajszel” bar, violently throw them out at events supposedly about preventing antisemitism.

                These political groups have created a weird zombie of marxist ideas and try to redeem themselves from the guilt of their nazi grandfathers, not by not being violent bigots, but by using israel as their nationalist pride and brown people as their targets.

                Luckily they are a fringe group by numbers, but because they are coopted by the state and mainstream actors they have disproportionate funding, attention and political power.

  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    8 hours ago

    Doing an anti Israel demo on the Hamas massacre anniversary… How far she has fallen.