Because the point was never to monetize the APIs. The point was to get rid of the third party apps. A minority of users are still using the not monetized versions of reddit. old.reddit.com, and the third party apps. The people using new reddit, and the reddit app, have a totally different, heavily monetized, modern social media experience full of ads and suggested posts. They want everyone to either have that experience, or leave.
But they can’t come out and say that, because it’s a huge fuck you. A fuck you to their original members, a fuck you to the apps they used to fuel their growth for a decade. Now they want a controlled ecosystem like Facebook, but they can’t say it directly. So instead it’s surprise API costs, refusing to talk to app developers, lying about conversations with Apollo devs.
But just like everything else they do, reddit can’t plan for shit. So they didn’t at all consider the fallout for accessibility tools, mod tools, etc. Which is why all their messaging since then has essentially been “No, we weren’t trying to kill accessibility and mod tools, just the third party apps for normal users!” But they can’t say the second part directly.
There is another point you are missing. Reddit uses browser fingerprinting to doxx and identify it’s user base so that they can bin your data properly when they sell it. Third party apps thwart this effort as they can’t tie your account to somebody who logs into the web site or uses their app.
Considering they’ve straight out said during this whole debacle that they had no plans to mess with old.reddit.com, just the same as they told the Apollo dev back in January they had no plans to mess with the API anytime in the near future - yeah, I have been wondering this, too.
It makes me sad for the future of troubleshooting older hardware and software problems. I have a lot of legacy equipment, and appending “site:reddit.com” to my search queries often gets me further faster than searching error messages alone. So many people are overwriting and deleting their old comments and posts while Reddit itself is fucking the accessibility of the information they steward, and it’s going to punch a little gap into the collective knowledge of the internet. That sucks.
Because the point was never to monetize the APIs. The point was to get rid of the third party apps. A minority of users are still using the not monetized versions of reddit. old.reddit.com, and the third party apps. The people using new reddit, and the reddit app, have a totally different, heavily monetized, modern social media experience full of ads and suggested posts. They want everyone to either have that experience, or leave.
But they can’t come out and say that, because it’s a huge fuck you. A fuck you to their original members, a fuck you to the apps they used to fuel their growth for a decade. Now they want a controlled ecosystem like Facebook, but they can’t say it directly. So instead it’s surprise API costs, refusing to talk to app developers, lying about conversations with Apollo devs.
But just like everything else they do, reddit can’t plan for shit. So they didn’t at all consider the fallout for accessibility tools, mod tools, etc. Which is why all their messaging since then has essentially been “No, we weren’t trying to kill accessibility and mod tools, just the third party apps for normal users!” But they can’t say the second part directly.
There is another point you are missing. Reddit uses browser fingerprinting to doxx and identify it’s user base so that they can bin your data properly when they sell it. Third party apps thwart this effort as they can’t tie your account to somebody who logs into the web site or uses their app.
I’m happy to do what reddit wants then, given those two options.
I really wonder how much longer old.reddit.com will last. Surely that’s “costing them millions of dollars” they could be saving as well, right?
Considering they’ve straight out said during this whole debacle that they had no plans to mess with old.reddit.com, just the same as they told the Apollo dev back in January they had no plans to mess with the API anytime in the near future - yeah, I have been wondering this, too.
It makes me sad for the future of troubleshooting older hardware and software problems. I have a lot of legacy equipment, and appending “site:reddit.com” to my search queries often gets me further faster than searching error messages alone. So many people are overwriting and deleting their old comments and posts while Reddit itself is fucking the accessibility of the information they steward, and it’s going to punch a little gap into the collective knowledge of the internet. That sucks.