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“Since we already encircled the northern part of Gaza in the past nine or 10 months, what we should do is the following thing to tell all the 300,000 residents [that the UN estimates is 400,000] who still live in the northern part of Gaza that they have to leave this area and they should be given 10 days to leave through safe corridors that Israel will provide.
“And after that time, all this area will become to be a military zone. And all the Hamas people will still, though, whether some of them are fighters, some of them are civilians… will have two choices either to surrender or to starve.”
Eiland wants Israel to seal the areas once the evacuation corridors are closed. Anyone left behind would be treated as an enemy combatant. The area would be under siege, with the army blocking all supplies of food, water or other necessities of life from going in.
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It is not clear whether the IDF has adopted the Generals’ Plan in part or in full, but the circumstantial evidence of what is being done in Gaza suggests it is at the very least a strong influence on the tactics being used against the population. The BBC submitted a list of questions to the IDF, which were not answered.
The ultra-nationalist extremists in Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet want to replace Palestinians in northern Gaza with Jewish settlers. Among many statements he’s made on the subject, the finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has said “Our heroic fighters and soldiers are destroying the evil of Hamas, and we will occupy the Gaza Strip… to tell the truth, where there is no settlement, there is no security.”
This guy is calling international war crimes as “a valid and legal military strategy”.
“The starvation and mass killing of civilians in the Warsaw Ghetto is a legitimate strategy” - This guy.
“We need to put the Jews in gas chambers to differentiate between civilians and combatants.”
This guy.
What do you think is going on whenever Ukraine hits the Kerch Birdge? They’re trying to cut Russia off from supply. Do you think this is a war crime? Or do you define war crime as “everything Israel does”?
Unless you have tangible evidence of Ukrainians denying vital aid and food to Russians, slaughtering civilians en masses like they’re currently doing in Jabalia, routine executions of journalists to silence the ongoing atrocities, and so much more; this comparison of yours is not valid.
I’m not here to do google searches for you. There have been numerous Ukrainian attacks on the Kerch Bridge and on Russian supply ships to Crimea. And this isn’t some accusation of Ukraine trying to commit genocide, it’s a recognition of Ukraine being in a war, and this is how wars have been fought for thousands of years.
People who don’t hate Israel and are desperately redefining the word genocide understand this. It would be different if Israel prevented civilians from leaving and let them starve along with Hamas. But read the article, that’s not the case. They are trying to get civilians out of the area. And even if the rumours prove to be true, the “General’s Plan” (which is actually a discussion from retired generals, not active duty military) the plan says that civilians that refuse to leave could do so when they run out of food. Hamas can surrender when they run out of food.
I have doubts that this will even happen because I have serious doubts that it would even work. Hamas are just the kind of assholes that would stockpile a year’s supply of rations in their underground lairs while the people they claim to be protecting go hungry. But if it did work, it would significantly reduce the number of civilian casualties (since they could leave the area) which is what we all want, right? Right?
When you pose extraordinary theories, they need extraordinary evidence to back up. You literally are here to do those searches, otherwise you can be dismissed as a lunatic. And that’s exactly what you are if you cannot distinguish between starving an entire city and destroying bridges and weapons of an occupying hostile power.
You attribute people calling out Israel for crimes against humanity as “haters”, you deny that a genocide is happening. You don’t know anything about the conflict, its history and why an order by the Israeli military saying “leave your homes you have 10 days” is not “a humanitarian outreach to get civilians out” and is instead a landgrab of huge proportions.
No, you’re just here to promote false narratives to misdirect and outright deny the atrocities committed by a terrorist-genocidal state. If you’re going to make a point. You should learn to back it up.
You mean by directing them to leave and then attacking the routes out of the area as they are attempting to leave?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_Palestinians_evacuating_Gaza_City
Or attacking those who successfuly fled once they reached the destination Israel told them to go to?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-strike-on-school-sheltering-displaced-gazans-kills-at-least-80-palestinian-officials-say
Or in Lebanon where they directed people to leave, in the middle of the night, with 30 minutes warning:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israels-airstrike-warnings-terrify-lebanese-civilians-and-draw-criticism-from-rights-groups
And then, as in Gaza, attacking those who are attempting to flee as ordered.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/10/07/lebanon-israeli-strikes-impede-fleeing-civilians-aid