The newest midsize crossover in Stellantis’ European lineup is available in five or seven-passenger configurations with either mild hybrid ICE or BEV drivetrain configurations – but that’s not the interesting part. The interesting part is this: whether you go with gas or electric, the price you pay remains the same. (!) Price parity, in the context of EVs, basically means that it would cost the same to buy an electric version of a car as an internal combustion version. Whether or not making parity a priority makes sense (and there are plenty who would argue that it doesn’t), there is still a persistent belief that EVs cost more than comparable gas cars.
Well, they did, anyway. The new Vauxhall Frontera is a mid-size crossover set to launch in the UK later this year with a £23,495 price tag (approx. $30,705) for the ICE version … and £23,495 for the BEV.
My issue is mainly that my landlord gets awfully silent whenever I ask for a charger in my garage. And street side charging is cumbersome and expensive. There are no fast chargers in my area and the slow ones are only usable for four hours.
Do you need a full fast charger? I went for months with a 40km commute and only the wall charger, overnight was enough. A 240volt laundry outlet can do it too, for much cheaper than a full charger install.
But yea, renters need support with this, regulating inclusion, building code changes, or incentives to landlords for installation, or public chargers. I don’t know what the solution is, probably a mix, but it can’t come soon enough.
You can even tap off the 240v and leave the dryer plugged in with a smart adapter. It only charges the car when the dryer is not running.
Thank you for solving my charging hassle at my parents rental. I mean that, this is great. I see there are even cheaper cable splitters, I wonder how they hold up for splitting car/dryer.
No problem mate. The article goes into it a bit with the cheaper splitters. They either aren’t UL listed, so maybe electronically unsafe, or they allow power draw over both outlets at once, which will trip you breaker if someone starts the dryer while the car is charging.
This one is electrically sound and “set it and forget it,” but is pricier.
Well sir, it looks like the electronically sound one is still less expensive than a house fire. So I’m inclined towards it.
Normal one would be ok, but there’s nothing and I don’t want to pay for my neighbor’s commute.
I’m not sure what you mean about paying for your neighbour. Do you cover electricity for the whole building or something?
No, but it’s a shared garage and a normal outlet could be used for whatever.
But I might have misunderstood your answer.
if renting would be a choice not a necessity for most people this wouldn’t be the issue it is today and would also solve a hell of a lot of other problems
In hindsight I wouldn’t have bought the charing unit. Much cheaper to go with a plain 240v outlet and compatible cord
Charging for people that live in apartments just sucks. This issue has to be dealt with for EVs to succeed on a larger scale.
In Copenhagen there are a lot of options for street charging. Yes, it might be more expensive than a private charger, but overall prices have come down quite a bit. And then again, if you insist on the luxury of owning a car in the city, you can afford that
Look at what the panel max capacity is. If the panel is 150-200A then adding a level 2 charger isn’t that expensive (~$1500) typically. A level 3 runs ~ $3K. Most systems aren’t maxing 150A and definitely not 200A. Your landlord might be thinking it would be a LOT more, see next paragraph.
However, if the panel needs an upgrade then the price goes way up, $6K-$10K+, just for the panel upgrade. If service needs to be re-run to add more power to the building then the price is even more (and very hard to estimate without being on site). Obviously, those are very ballpark because each building’s system is different.
I think the capacity should be there, they just refuse to answer. The building is from 2010. My plan is moving anyway so I didn’t put too much effort in. But that plan has been a plan for quite some time.