• BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    He’s been allowed to get away with violating the first amendment for awhile though. It’s no wonder he’s trying to here. The whole disney vendetta started because they openly opposed a law they wanted to pass. Not much more first amendment than that.

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    The government cannot excuse its indirect censorship of political speech simply by declaring the disfavored speech is “false.”

    For when all the liberals who whine about how conservatives are “allowed to lie!”. In particular the ones taking the side of the Brazilian government against musk.

    Freedom cuts both ways. It needs to. You have to put up with speech you hate in order to have your own freedom to say what you want.

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      In particular the ones taking the side of the Brazilian government against musk.

      Brazil doesn’t have USA’s First Amendment. So no matter which stance people have on what it should be, it was legally valid.

      And the whole fight was a political farce as Musk personally is known to comply with government censorship. Again, you can argue that the law is wrong and should be changed, but it’s legally valid.

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        Brazil doesn’t have USA’s First Amendment. So no matter which stance people have on what it should be, it was legally valid.

        I’m arguing “should” not “can”. It’s just another case of when libs will gladly dispose of their values when it suits their short-term goals.

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      Except you can’t threaten a president or lie about a corporation without being sued.

      However, the right to incite racial violence is very much protected

      Funny that huh?

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        Except you can’t threaten a president

        Or anybody else if it’s a “true threat”

        or lie about a corporation without being sued.

        Or anybody else. And this is a civil tort not a criminal offense.

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          Yeah, so, like I said, not so free after all, depsite the claims to the contrary.

          Well, unless its the right to incite racial hatred and violence. Then you’re free as a bird.

          I’m sure its just a coincidence and doesn’t cross reference with anything else from Americas history.

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            I have no idea what your point is. Do you have an argument that isn’t petty whining and vague hints at something nefarious? Because whiny “I’m sure it’s just a coincidence…” arguments simply aren’t worth engaging with.

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          However, the right to incite racial violence is very much protected

          Yeah - it protected a lot of civil rights activists in the '60s.

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        Lets just ignore all the laws against murder. But seriously if you’re at the point where you’re willing to kill people over what they say then you’re a danger to us all.