It’s one thing to hear the warnings of scientists my entire life on the ravages of climate change. It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years. Living in Hell will be normal soon.
With the same people who block action on gun violence now offering thoughts and prayers to climate change victims and saying that anyone trying to solve the problem is just politicizing a tragedy.
How is this fire related to climate change? Genuine question because I don’t understand the connection
Based on my own training in environmental science, I can say that virtually all phenomena in nature have multiple, interacting causes. To synthesize what I’ve read about the wildfires on Maui, the direct factors were: invasive grass species which have taken over much of the land area after the sugar cane and pineapple plantations shut down decades ago; a flash drought on the island; and high winds from Hurricane Dora. A flash drought means it’s hot and dry enough to pull moisture out of the plants and the ground, so the conditions on the island were very, very dry. The dry grasses burn quickly and intensely, and the fire was fanned by 70-80MPH winds from the hurricane passing by in the Pacific Ocean.
Climate change has a role in making flash droughts much more likely, and more intense. It also helps fuel bigger, stronger hurricanes. Thus, a flash drought coinciding with a hurricane is much more likely due to it.
Thank you for the detailed explanation!
If only I had Lemmy silver to give
Changes to rain patterns, higher temperatures drying vegetation…what might have been minor or even nothing can now become an inferno.
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It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years
in some countries, it already is!
In Australia someone’s house burnt down the other day. I haven’t heard of any bushfires this year, but that house burning down sure pushed us ahead of the school shooting count for the year.
So many historical sites just GONE. Spent Summer’s in my teens working jobs along Front Street. Extremely sad and I hope they get the hope they need soon.
They’ll get the hope they need for sure! All those thought and prayers will surely build their hope.
My grandma grew up in Lahaina and sadly her mother’s ashes are gone with the Buddhist temple that burned down :(
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I just flew out of Oahu back to San Diego. I thought I was seeing a pool of lava and took a picture excitedly. Then I learned about all of this after getting home…
would you mind sharing that photo?
Yes please!
Thanks, Big Oil!
It burned the color out.
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Did they actually use greyscale or similar to make it look worse than it already is?
That’s how shit looks after it burns. You ever seen a campfire? And cloud cover or smoke filters daylight which actually reveals a lot of natural color. Think about what your town looks like on an overcast day vs a clear one.
Also, a lot of ashes falling everywhere makes everything look grey.
The image below has enough hints of color that I think it’s a color image, too. I guess there’s so much smoke in the air that the sunlight is getting filtered and everything looks grey.
I guess a lot of it is due to the unclear sky, there still is a lot of smoke visible in the bottom picture. Direct sunlight makes the colours more vibrant, whereas grey sky will also reflect on the sea greyish. It’s always possible they might also have helped a bit with a filter.
Here are clearer, more close-up pictures:
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2Looks to me like green and blue have been desaturated.
Yeah my main issue was the color of the ocean and that sunlight streak looking weird like someone used a sepia filter on it.
We haven’t exactly been wanting for post wildfire pictures the last half decade and this is the first I’ve seen look digitally altered to make it look significantly worse. It has that look, and I’ve seen a lot of shops in my time.
Who knows. Might’ve just gotten a great macabre picture though.
The top photo was taken (I suppose by a satellite?) with a polarized filter and the bottom photo looks like a drone shot without a polarized filter. The polarized filter will make the water appear more blue and ‘see through’ the non polarized photo shows the sunlight and smoke reflecting off the water.
I am quite unsure what any of this has to do with the fact you can look at both photos and see clearly that most of the buildings are burnt to the ground in the second photo. Does the lack of a polarized filter in the second photo indicate that those buildings really didn’t burn to the ground?
Thanks for the info. And no, you’re just looking way too into what I said lol.
It legitimately looks sepia filtered. On a near similar photo showing damage which has pretty vibrant colors everywhere including the ocean. The ash and or filter makes much of the colorization look exactly like someone put a snap filter on it to make it look worse than the already terrible event it is, as if it needed a more grim look to popularize the picture. If they did end up applying a filter, I doubt it needed it, and may even look worse without one.
Trying to spread this weird implied false flag shit out of nowhere is literal insanity, Rashnet lol.
I feel like that’s just because of cloud/smoke cover that the ocean looks like that. I doubt the photo has been altered specifically to make it look worse.
Water color is a good point. I’d guess maybe the time of day may be different between the pics which may affect overall colorization
There’s also a lot of ash and the water and coast guard boats kicking up dirt and sand.
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Wow! The fire spontaneously created another dock in the water!
I mean, everything else matches; it’s exactly where the worst of the fires happened (Lahaina), and nothing else anywhere near there looks like this. It’s probably a structure that was added after the one at the top. Temporary floating dock or something.
Commenting this just bc it sounds like you’re casting suspicion on the photos, but I’m pretty sure they’re the same place.
How that could’ve happen?
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fortunes in real estate are born in tragedy, so yes. the fact that this is your initial public response to paradise being destroyed and thousand+ missing lives, i fear no fortune could heal the hole in your character.
I think it would be the opposite actually.
Fuck I hope so badly they don’t let a developer in there to rebuild and it ends up looking like the shops at wailea
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That just means that companies will buy the land for pennies on the dollar, build houses and then rent them out instead of selling them.
