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    While unsure about the Qatari hospital, this is not unfounded.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-believes-hamas-used-al-shifa-hospital-evacuated-before-israeli-operation-2024-01-03/

    The U.S. intelligence assessment was reported first by the New York Times. A classified version of the assessment was sent to lawmakers in the U.S. Congress.

    Israeli tanks advanced on Gaza City’s Al Shifa hospital, with some patients still inside, in mid-November. Israel said the hospital sat atop tunnels housing headquarters for Hamas fighters using patients as shields, which Hamas denied.

    Israeli assessment’s was at least partially correct that some hostages were held at or under the complex but those hostages appeared to have been moved as Hamas evacuated, the New York Times reported.

    In November, White House national security spokesman John Kirby said, opens new tab Hamas militants were sheltering themselves in the hospital and using the facility as a shield against military action, placing patients and medical staff at risk.

    “We have our own intelligence that convinces us that Hamas was using Al Shifa as a command and control node, and most likely as well as a storage facility,” Kirby said in November. Washington had at the time not declassified the sources of the U.S. intelligence.

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      U.S. intelligence agencies have not disclosed the evidence on which they based their assessment. The official said the U.S. had independently confirmed the information.

      “Trust us bro. We had to commit war crimes bro.”

      U.S. intelligence agencies obtained information that Hamas fighters had largely evacuated the complex days before Israel’s operation and destroyed documents and electronics as they left, according to the American official.

      Oh so it was no longer being used as a base then? Why did they have to attack it then? Convenient that Hamas cleaned out the “base” before leaving.

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        Did Hamas let anyone know they were leaving?

        And the first meme doesn’t play in this situation.

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          Did Hamas let anyone know they were leaving?

          I would imagine they might have left some kind of trail along with the “undisclosed” intelligence that the US and Israel is claiming they have.

          And the first meme doesn’t play in this situation.

          Yes it does. You just don’t want it to.

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            When your second comment asks why it was “no longer” used as a base, “trust us bro” doesn’t work when you’re admitting yourself it was used as a base just prior.

            Perhaps Hamas could let anyone know they’re moving out.

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              Go back and read my comment. I never said I believed they were actually using it as a base. I was remarking how “convenient” it was that they claimed there was a base but there happened to be no evidence of the base when they attacked. It’s called sarcasm when my bullshit-o-meter goes off the charts.

              I’d rather Israel let everyone know when they move out.

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                Ah gotcha, “didn’t really mean it,” and it isn’t the case that there was no evidence, the assessment was circulated to congress.

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                  So the evidence presented to the public was debunked but the actual “evidence” was given to Congress in a classified debriefing? And you wonder why people are calling bullshit?