An analysis of the MoH methodology, the exacerbating challenges it faces as the war continues, and estimates from independent researchers and humanitarian organisations.

An analysis of the Gaza MoH methodology, the exacerbating challenges it faces as the war continues, and estimates from independent researchers and humanitarian organisations.

  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.comEnglish
    3·
    2 months ago

    Well, nothing is going to convince you that Israel might (not necessarily is, but might) be committing genocide since you are just going to claim that experts from multiple nations and walks of life sre biased.

    In other words, the court basically said the case can move forward. That’s it.

    One could reasonably conclude that this means the case is inconclusive. The case hasn’t been dismissed, but it hasn’t rendered a verdict of guilty or acquittal either. The question is still open.

    nd anybody writing about it does so because they have strong opinions about it.

    You do appear to have already made up your mind on this matter. You have other comments authoritatively proclaiming that Israel is not guilty.

    • DarthJon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      Of course nothing is going to convince me of that because the facts simply don’t support it. By the way, did you know that during the 2014 war in Gaza, when the death toll was around 2500, people were accusing Israel of committing genocide then too? Anti-Zionists deliberately stretch the bounds of these concepts to make Israel a pariah. Just keep throwing accusations around and eventually something will stick. And even if it doesn’t, Israel’s enemies will continue to believe it anyway. This is a longstanding part of their propaganda strategy.

      One could reasonably conclude that this means the case is inconclusive. The case hasn’t been dismissed, but it hasn’t rendered a verdict of guilty or acquittal either. The question is still open.>

      No, it literally means nothing other than, “We, the ICJ, can hear this case.”

      • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Of course nothing is going to convince me of that because the facts simply don’t support it.

        Ignoring every fact you don’t like usually does that.

        Besides the point of arguing if or isn’t a genocide, you have to admit its pretty fucking bad that Israel is doing something that looks so much like one right?

        Even if not genocide they shouldn’t be bombing, killing, or starving their neighbors

        • DarthJon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          2 months ago

          Like I said, people were screaming genocide in 2014 when the war lasted 2 weeks and the death toll was miniscule. Meaningless.

          They were violently attacked and they have the right to respond with military force, the same right that any sovereign nation has. It’s one thing to question whether Israel could be doing more to prevent civilian casualties, but if your starting point is that Israel just shouldn’t respond at all, then your position is simply unreasonable to begin with.

          • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            See this is again you ignoring what is happening. A response is not destroy everything.

            Death toll isn’t the issue. It’s their systematic destruction of the country. Their schools, hospitals, infrastructure and records.

            It meets all the criteria. Even your response is just Israel can kill everyone and it would be justified even while being the ones lording over the Palestinians.

            • DarthJon@lemmy.worldEnglish
              14·
              2 months ago

              Gaza isn’t a country, it’s a tiny enclave. War is very destructive. The best way to avoid it is to not start wars.