• GarlicToast@programming.dev
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    27 days ago

    Israel left Gaza in 2005, and placed no blockade. Hamas to power in 2007 and broke all past agreements with Israel and started to launch rockets into Israel. This lead to the blockade.

    The civilian population is no shield against a blockade.

    If you started to fire your gun on my home at random hours I would have locked your door from the outside and set your home on fire with, or without, your family inside. This is common sense.

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      You are justifying an apartheid state, none of what you are saying is disproving the fact that Israel is one.

      The civilian population is no shield against a blockade.

      The civilian population shouldn’t have to deal with a blockade, indiscriminate bombing, apartheid or genocide.

      That’s the point. This isn’t taking care of business or self defense, it’s ethnic cleansing.

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        You are mixing the west bank and Gaza 🤦‍♂️

        There is no apartheid in Gaza, as no part of Gaza is under Israeli management. Israel placed a blockade on Gaza from the sea (and not from Egypt) because Hamas was firing rockets (indiscriminately BTW) into it civilian population.

        There is an apartheid in the West Bank with the Jewish variation of Nazim running the show. That should stop. But that happens in the West Bank, where less than 6% of Israeli live.

        The 7th of October attack was imitated from Gaza, by Hamas, which see both Israel and Fatah as enemies (Hamas throw Fatah people off roof tops in 2007, that how they got into power).

        You are justifying an islamfascist body asymmetrical war on a neighboring country. By mixing geogrphy.

        I’m not sure if you are troll, or mentally retarded.

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          Despite the Israeli disengagement, Gaza is still considered occupied by Israel under international law.

          Open air prison, apartheid and genocide. Go shill for netanyahu somewhere else.

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            Fuck Netanyahu, fuck his Nazi government, fuck Hamas, fuck every Hamas supporter, fuck every person that cheered on the 7th of October, fuck every person that went to burn houses in the west bank, and fuck you, for spreading hate and thinking (you are bad at that part) that a highly complex conflict that goes back hundreds of years is one sided.

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              hey, they never said it was one-sided. the comments above were merely refusing to acknowledge israel as an apartheid state… it can both be true that israel is an apartheid state committing genocide, AND that hamas launched indiscriminate rockets into israel and both those things can be indefensible

    • Hamas to power in 2007 and broke all past agreements with Israel and started to launch rockets into Israel. This lead to the blockade.

      Hamas seized power after a civil war, brought on by an attempted coup by the PA backed by the US and Israel. This attempted coup led to the Hamas attacks on Israel. They did not randomly break all agreements and started shooting rockets.

      Hamas was always deeply unhappy with the Israeli presence, but they hadn’t become really openly violent before that point.

      If you started to fire your gun on my home at random hours I would have locked your door from the outside and set your home on fire with, or without, your family inside. This is common sense.

      What the fuck is this insane statement. Call the police?

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        Hamas seized power after a civil war, brought on by an attempted coup by the PA backed by the US and Israel. This attempted coup led to the Hamas attacks on Israel. They did not randomly break all agreements and started shooting rockets.

        Hamas was always deeply unhappy with the Israeli presence, but they hadn’t become really openly violent before that point.

        Hamas’ charter calls for the destruction of Israel and death to all Jews. They showed previously to 2006 that those are not empty words. In 2006, after the elections, they refused to respect previews agreements Israel made with the PA and then they dug a tunnel into Israel and kidnapped an Israeli soldier.

        All the while not paying salaries to the PA defence forces and keeping a private military body.

        There was no coup, no one wanted to continue working with them after that. So the president of the PA replaced the prime minister.

        What the fuck is this insane statement. Call the police?

        There is no police for international matters.

        • “In an April 2008 article in Vanity Fair magazine, the journalist David Rose published confidential documents, apparently originating from the US State Department, which would prove that the United States collaborated with the PNA and Israel to attempt the violent overthrow of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and that Hamas pre-empted the coup.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)#:~:text=In an April,empted the coup.

          You have some reading to do.

          There is no police for international matters.

          There is, it’s called a UN Peacekeeping Force.

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            The battle of Gaza in 2007 happened after Hamas dried the PA security and opened a war on Israel by kidnapping a soldier from within Israel through a tunnel.

            The uselessness of the UN Peacekeeping Force is the reason Israel and HA are at war, again. They failed to enforce 1701.

            If to judge by other places in the world, they were probably too busy taking bribes and sexually abusing the locals.