As a Canadian, I say this with the utmost sincerity: if you’re thinking of moving here because you’re a leftist, don’t. Canada is about to take a huge swing to the right in next year’s election. People are extremely sick of Trudeau and his refusal to withdraw from the upcoming election (he’s been in power for 9 years) will take his party down with him.
Also, you can’t afford a house, car ownership is mandatory, and we do nothing to stop our oligarchs from creating monopolies and playing silly little games like price fixing groceries.
Supporting oligarchy is an official policy here. It’s based on some grossly misguided ideology that big Canadian companies will protect us against bigger American competitors. We’re raising our own breed of face-eating snow leopards!
Sounds like United States 2: Electric Boogaloo.
They’ve actually got the US beat on the military-industrial complex bit, at least when adjusted for GDP.
And we’ve also got a bigger housing bubble
And you’re tearing up bike lanes like it’s going out of style.
Honestly reminds me of my younger sibling trying to outdo me on random shit.
Also 2 phone providers I believe yes?
Rogers and Bell or something?.. Or did it have “Tel” in there. I’m just guessing from memory
We have 3 major providers, Rogers/bell/telus with their subsidiary fido/virgin/koodo. And we do have a few small companies but they just rent bandwidth from the big 3.
Ah shit I was close
If you’re a leftist, wouldn’t that situation make you want leftists to move there? Wouldn’t that be a (tiny) net positive?
Leftists moving here now are not going to get citizenship in time to vote in the next election. The visa -> PR -> citizenship path takes years and years.
Yabbut, electoral politics isn’t the only way to make a community better.
I just read a story yesterday about a community in northern Maine that ran a neo-Nazi out of town. For example.
If your goal is to make things better, wouldn’t you be best positioned to do that in your own community? Moving to a new place with its own unique set of problems is challenging enough as it is. To hope to make a difference there is going to involve learning about local issues. Unless you mean something more generic, like volunteering in soup kitchens, homeless shelters, literacy programs, etc. which are everywhere and always can use extra help.
I’d assumed that people worried about fallout from the US election are worried more about their own situation: their rights and freedoms, personal safety, and economic situation. Moving to Canada could definitely improve some of those issues while exacerbating others. Housing in Canada (especially in big cities like Toronto and Vancouver, but not at all limited to those cities) is generally much less affordable than the U.S. outside of the big cities there (New York, San Francisco, LA, Seattle). Many people who move here find it very challenging unless they already have a bunch of wealth saved up.
All valid points.
I thought “yabbut” was some Yiddish slang for a second til I caught the typo.
Oy vey.
Need to spend 3 of last 5 years in Canada
We’ve just seen that stepping aside is pointless without a popular candidate to step up. Neither the Liberals nor the NDP have anyone.
Come to europe please if youre liberal and you are able to
I mean, the paperwork is probably online so you could get a head start, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up for fast bureaucracy nor cutting the line. Plus we just cut down on immigration to play along with your trend.
Don’t hold your breath.
Not to mention a housing crisis significantly worse than the US from what I hear.
Depends on where you go and what you do. Foreign investment is a problem in the big cities, small towns saw a surge in prices when everyone left the office for lower costs of living, but they’ve stabilized. It’s not good, not horrible.
As a Canadian, please don’t come here (unless your reproductive rights/ bodily autonomy are under direct threat)
Sometimes I feel hopeless with our political parties and economy up here and think about moving out of country and then I remember that as a citizen I have a duty and responsibility to remain a voice of reason in my community.
As a US citizen you are afforded real rights that citizens in other countries do not have. For example: In Canada we don’t have rights, we have freedoms. Those freedoms can be suspended by the government at any time.
Be the change. Fix your system. Help turn your nation into the example for the global west that it always aspired to.
Speaking as a Canadian, if you feel like your personal safety and bodily autonomy is threatened in a way that can be improved by moving here, you are welcome. It’s called the Charter of RIGHTS and Freedoms. We absolutely have rights.
Imagine if Canada built a wall to keep out all the immigrants from their southern border.
Our system was designed to not be fixable.
The number of Americans I meet who think that Canada is just “USA 2” is staggering.
it does seem to share a lot of the worse aspects of the U.S., such as dysfunctional national transit systems
I could not possibly identify more closely with a comment when it comes to agreement.
Isn’t it just the closest country to flee to?
Well, that and Mexico
They should come to Mexico.
Are you inviting us?
Remember that wall Trump wants to build? It’s also to keep Americans in.
Good thing most immigrants arrive via plane. A lot of fucking good a wall does to stop immigration.
It’s only a matter of time before the travel bans are instituted and anyone from a ‘shithole country’ is not allowed in.
Just build walls around airports. It’s an easy fix.
That’s what I’m considering once they start killing or putting people into camps (might not happen this 4 years, but that is objectively what they are trying to do). I’m learning Japanese and they have been increasing their protection rate of refugees, and Germany’s rate is routinely very high (last i checked) so that’s an option too.
Same
They won’t take you
and the 10 people total who actually do are in for a rude awakening once they realize what canadian politics are like
Showing up in Alberta with your COEXIST bumper sticker and immediately getting shanked by a dozen MAGA heads with Nazi tattoos
This query was most popular in Vermont.
the related queries (statistically correlated based on time, etc):
- “how to move to australia from usa”
- “how to move to scotland from us”
- “english speaking countries”
- “where to move if trump is elected”
- “how to move to germany from the us”
He won even the popular vote, despite lemmy crying for months. Now, lemmy, accept the democracy and law and order you so cherish, and welcome your new president.
And next time remember that denialism and trump bad memes posted in an echo chamber aren’t doing anything. Hard lessons, lemmings, hard lessons.
We are a nation of bullies. We elected a bully. Checks out.
Canada isn’t America. You can’t just cross the border and claim to be “undocumented”. There’s a shit ton of paperwork and it’s a lengthy process. If you just jump the border they will deport your ass.
!Just like the US should do with everyone who did the same.!<
America needs people to jump the border to perform back-breaking labor under constant threat of being arrested to keep our groceries cheap
You can visit and stay, though. Like my drug dealer.
Why, Canada sucks though
Not as much as the US if anything I read on the internet is true. (Some of it has to be, right?)
At least cities and towns aren’t controlled by the state in the US and actually have rights. Just look at Toronto. Canada government structure is fucked. If you get fascists at the state level you’re screwed!
I’m not scared of getting pregnant, breaking a bone or being gay, if that’s what you mean. Racism is… slightly better than the US.
