The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!
In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.
In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.
In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!
In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.
In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.
And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.
Dems are the greatest ally the GOP could ask for. Lost to Trump at his weakest, literally doing a Nazi rally. Being spineless doesn’t get you wins. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar won re-election by comfortable margins and the rest of the party are fighting for their lives in these states. Some Red States still voted to protect abortion rights and just choose not to vote for Harris.
Even if Jill Stein voters had picked Harris she still would have lost. There is no-one to blame but Harris and embracing people like Dick Cheney anrd The Blue No Matter who crowd themselves. You let Republicans unapologetically be themselves but your’re whole brand of politics makes any group who works with you expendable and centers a chance for that 1-2 GOP voters joining. I hope it was worth it.
It’s past time everyone realized the people running the DNC just don’t really care if a republican wins.
The only danger to their careers or quality of life is if a progressive wave takes over the party, because they won’t keep pro-corporate people in leadership positions.
And they legally control the primary, so they never have to give up power.
There are a lot of “leftists” here on Lemmy that have been quite vocal about not caring about, or even preferring if Trump wins, but for way less consistent reasons.
I don’t think that this is just a problem with Liberals. People keep using the office of president as a battleground for single issues, and end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater every time.
Yeah, like when Obama ran on healthcare and flipped all those red states…
What “single issue” has any of the subsequent Dem candidates ran on besides “my name isn’t trump”?
We can’t just keep running these “moderate” candidates and keep acting surprised when Dem voters reject them. Biden barely pulled it off, and both Hillary and Kamala failed miserably.
Neoliberalism is not a valid strategy
Now, it’s possible you meant single issue voters, but I just didn’t think anyone would make that claim and try to blame 5-10 different groups with separate “single issues”.
But who knows, a neoloberal just lost the presidential election, were about to see crazy level of mental gymnastics about how the party needs to move even further right.
Foreign policy is the one single issue that is actually relevant to the presidency. Despite what recent history shows, constitutionally only the president can declare war, with the support of congress. Of course in practice we’ve been at war for all but a few years of our near 250 year (failing) empire.
I knew it was over at that point. Whoever suggested that was a good idea for Harris that late in the campaign definitely has a MAGA hat in their closet.
I knew it was bad at the debate, where Trump even called her out for adopting his polices like the border wall and stuff. But the Dick Cheney thing was crazy because not only was he rejected by Liberals in the past. But he is still one of the most hated War Criminals of all time. He isn’t going to sway over GOP people when you’re active in genocide. It just makes you look like the type of people he likes.
Seriously? People making the choice to have Trump because she had Cheney supporting her, that is some funny math…people need to stop demanding a perfect candidate and start thinkinh about who do you want to be your opponent for the next four years.
There are people who still believe Trump is anti-war for some reason or don’t play attention to the stuff he does once in office. It isn’t asking for perfection to not be cool with one of the most unpopular people in politics and the worst War Criminal when your tagline is “Joy.” Morals and Standards go a long way.
I doubt anybody based their support on whether dick fucking Cheney was voting for Harris or not.
The fact that the democrats courted this war criminal instead of courting their base just goes to show how little they care about losing an election.
Tbh, if she went all progressive, we would have been in here dating she needed to reach across the aisle. It’s hard to be both and I’m not sure it’s just the dnc to blame here, misogyny, ignorance and racism is hardly their fault,she the dnc has a role here, but…
I disagree. If weve learned anything from the past two elections, it should be that there is no “middle aisle” to appeal to anymore. It makes no sense to go “mild” when the people really sitting home on Nov. 5th are the “wild” ones who feel like you aren’t progressive enough.
Case-in-point being Trump’s own campaign which did exactly that and is now looking like it won the popular vote by a higher margin than Biden won in 2020, too.
Biden went full progressive on his platform and won.