• MacAnus
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    12 days ago

    Is Trump planning on helping Palestinians? It always seemed a strange argument to me to use against the Democrats since I’m pretty sure the right would have done the exact same in regards to Israel. Please prove me wrong, I’d love to see a silver lining to this situation.

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      12 days ago

      Trump probably has more allegiance to Putin than he does to Netanyahu’s money, which might mean forcing it to compromise on a compromise. But frankly, I’ve always seen US support of Israel as a means to drive out Russian influence in Israel, whose cooperation has increased the last few decades before becoming clouded with the latest conflict. The conflict with Iran and its proxies might stop, but Palestinians are still getting genocided, if anything with more of a focus.

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      12 days ago

      Are biden/Harris planning on helping the Palestinians when they continue to fund and arm israel in the genocide?

      They’re the same.

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        12 days ago

        Exactly! So we agree it shouldn’t be an argument for or against any side, right?

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          12 days ago

          I voted third party, the two parties are materially indifferent when it comes to their support of the working class or their bloodlust for war and supporting genocide.

          I don’t give a fuck that trumps gonna be president and I’m a visibly queer woman who’s been perceived and attacked for being “trans” under the Obama admin in a liberal state. I’ve been viciously assaulted for being visibly queer since I was a child in the 90s. The majority of these people don’t scare me. The only ones who actually scare me are the Christian nationalists who wanna turn this country into Christian Iran and the democrats haven’t done a single fucking thing in my entire life to stop them.

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            12 days ago

            Glad voting third party accomplished so much. Now we have Trump in office. So much better than Harris! Now the U.S.A definitely won’t turn into a Christian Iran, as you put it. /s

            Would love it if third parties were viable, but we have a First Past the Post system, so unless that changes or we implement a tiered voting system starting at local governments and expanding out to a national level, a third party candidate will never be president.

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            12 days ago

            I hope you don’t come to regret this, I really do. I’m not from the US but I’m afraid of the consequences this election will have on the whole world.

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              11 days ago

              Why would I regret it? Fascism didn’t just pop up in 2015 when trump announced he was running, fascism has been here since we genocided the natives in our push for westward expansion. Hitler loved our history and wanted to learn from us!

              As a visibly queer person I’ve experienced the “fascism” liberals are freaking the fuck out about since I was a child under every single administration.

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                I think you’d regret it if it gets worse. It’s not because fascism has always been there that it can’t get worse … As fucked up as it is, and I’m sorry to say this; but if the non-queer liberals start experiencing what you’ve experienced your whole life, I would bet big that queer people are gonna have a much tougher time.