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Summary
Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.
The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.
The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.
What’s the point?
I understand why they would choose not to date men that advocate against abortions and stuff - that’s basic dignity and self-protection.
But why not date any other men? To hurt demographics to the best of their ability state-wise? Then this is primarily a problem set 15-20 years into the future, and may not really see the government’s reaction for a while.
The article implies that this is a reaction to specifically conservative men. So I think there is nuance there that the article is choosing not to define. But until women get autonomy over their reproductive health, having sex with any men, conservative or not, comes with increased risk. So it has a certain logic to it even if they are truly swearing off literally all men.
Ooh, that’s something I didn’t grok when I first saw these articles pop up. Everything is focused on the “no sex punishment” angle. But, for women, now sex is more of a Russian roulette with varying amounts of bullets based on luck and how much the man cares about contraception.
An accident could saddle them with an unwanted child. Or death outside a hospital because doctors are immobilized by “abortion bans”.
It’s a protest about women reasserting autonomy over their own bodies. The majority of men in the US have voted for a regime that has shown it does not regard women’s rights. It could be different from person to person but it’s mainly to show the government that women won’t just be passive when laws try to force women to just be a submissive baby maker.
Supportive men could do the same to maybe accellerate the cause until reasonable rights in the region are established for healthy childbirth and sex.
I see. Think it’s an overkill and people can use contraception instead of going full separate, but there is kind of a point in there
Contraception is never 100% effective, which is one of the many reasons why abortion is necessary healthcare. I’ve seen many misogynists suggest women should just keep their legs closed. Seems like that’s what they’re deciding to do.
Sure, but effective enough to make a drastic change to fertility rate.
Still, I see where you’re going with it
I genuinely believe there are trolls who throw shit like this at the wall just to see if it will stick.
It’s sad when people actually mess up their families because they listen to trolls on the internet.
No one wants to have families right now, especially women, you homunculus.
That’s not true.
You should spend more time off of these forums so you don’t have such a myopic view of the world.
Lmao okay boomer