• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    It’s crazy that most of the country looked at that and said either “I want that” or “That’s fine, I don’t care”.

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      They didn’t look at that. This is the frustrating truth we have to come to terms with. People are fucking oblivious. They vote for a single issue at most, and don’t understand what they signed up for.

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        It’s almost like someone has been systematically dismantling your education system for 50 or so years so they could reach this point.

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        It’s brexit mentality. People voted for change from the status quo.

        Most don’t imagine that change will could make their lives worse.

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        Yeah, oblivious sums it up. Despite all the stuff that’s happened, and all the information and video evidence that’s readily available to anybody who cares enough to look at it, their team is their team. If you fancy yourself a smart responsible Christian, especially a white one, your ignorant ass is just a Republican.

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          The amount of people who are horrified now that they’ve had tariffs explained to them is… depressingly high.

          They didn’t wanna look up what a tarrif was before voting for Mr. Tariffs?

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            They just thought that was the magic word he was going to use to set gasoline prices back to what they were in 2016!

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              I almost wish for gas prices to be as high as they are in other developed countries… That and the tariffs would be a huge wake up. Unfortunately it would be blamed on Biden even 3 years down the road… It’s a no win situation.

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                Average gas price today in NZ: $2.53NZD/l = $5.59USD/Gal (2.53 * 3.78(l to Gal) / 1.71 (NZD to USD))

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                  Oh my sweet summer kiwi friend. If we are going to teach my fellow Americans that other countries exist, and that global commodity prices affect them too, and that they are often more expensive than our “high” prices here, I don’t think we can start with the country that gets left off the map all the damn time by people who should already know better!

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                Yeah, Trump not having his horrible decisions and actions held against him is kind of how we got here in the first place. :/

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        I live in a very liberal place, and people still throw their TVs and ACs into the fucking recycling dumpster. Americans are overall a very stupid group of people. Red areas doubly so.

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        This may sound controversial and no I don’t have a way to implement it, but we should probably have a means to screen the knowledge of voters over the things they’re voting on before they can access a ballot box.

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          Consider that the MAGAs would be in charge of administering and scoring such a test and you’ll immediately see why that’s a bad idea.

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          I’ve been thinking about this lately. Is this the moment when we realize a democracy isn’t all it’s cracked up to be?

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      A large chunk of the population gets their info from Fox News and News Max etc. Many of my extended family unfortunately. They think that is reliable information and can’t be convinced otherwise. When I try to bring up facts they give me this look like I’m the crazy one spreading the lies. It’s a really sad state of affairs, they are genuinely good people otherwise. I think there are too many assumptions that people just wanted what we’re about to get.

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        Sorry no. If they voted for trump they’re not good people. They’re either assholes or too stupid to be making decisions for the country.

        Anyone who votes for mass deportation is not a good person. Anyone who votes to take away health care from a huge chunk of the population is also not a good person.

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          It’s an environment issue for them, their belief system and past experiences shape their decisions. The DNC had opportunities for real change and did not take them, and that feeds into the establishment/ “drain the swamp” rhetoric. Calling people stupid isn’t going to help anything, they are heavily misinformed and tuned out living in a busy world. I don’t give them a full pass here, but if we’re going to change anything we need to figure out how to communicate with this segment and recognize their grievances.

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            Nah. They got themselves into that information bubble because it validated and made them feel ok with their misogyny, their xenophobia, their general bigotry. If you watch just a little Fox, Infowars, Rogan and decide, “hey, this is good stuff and deserving of my attention”, you weren’t a good person to begin with.

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            Thing is, normalizing stupidity and shitiness doesn’t help anything either. It actively makes things worse. I don’t know what the actual answer is to improving things with that kind of person though. I just think pretending that being a shitbag is acceptable behavior ain’t it.

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        Or they just don’t watch the news entirely. There was a spike insearches on election day of ‘Did Biden drop out?’ These people are completely out of the loop on everything and yet voting.