• nifty@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    What if these so-called efficiency measures actually help pave the way for the first civil outpost on Mars? I think I want to give people some benefit of the doubt, we can do better than what we have currently. Ideally, it’s realizing that there’s no such thing as scarcity in a boundless universe.

    Make no mistake though, the Trump admin is giving grounds to fascism, and that’s a problem. Apologies if I sound unreasonably optimistic, I know a lot is happening which will ruin lives for many. No one should be okay with that.

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      What benefit does a civilian outpost on Mars give to our current society? We have effectively handled scarcity already. All scarcity that exists today is entirely manufactured by the owner class. We have the means to safely and effectively have infinite electricity, food, and housing. We choose not to. How would that change if we have a base on Mars?

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        I don’t think any of the resources you’ve mentioned can be handled for unlimited population growth on Earth.

        Besides that, land is a limited resource on Earth for continued human population increase, so instead of asking people to limit reproduction, we’re better off looking for different planets to inhabit.

        That said, Earth is the only known habitable planet we have, and it makes sense to protect it for both practical and cultural reasons. But future gens will benefit from space exploration, it doesn’t have to be either/or regardless of what anyone says.

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      There are still people who think humans can live on Mars, with today’s technology even?

      The continuous radiation bombardment alone makes it virtually impossible, but the insane cold won’t help. Spending the rest of your life in cramped pods isn’t quite the psychological experience you would appreciate, and the low gravity is going to mush your muscles up. And there’s no way back, ever. So seeing mum and dad at christmas … fat chance. You might zoom them, with 20 minutes delay per direction. But Gen X billionaires that read too much shoddy scifi in their youth never think of those things.

      Oh, and Elon promised us that Mars colony in 2021. There’s not even a starter kit on the surface yet.