One main issue with our progressive neighbors is they like to co-opt movements and take control of them and fight our class interests to protest the status quo.
I see what you’re saying. If progressives do this, what do you suggest? Are you left of progressives? Sorry, I’m new to actively participating in these types of conversations. I want to help fight the status quo, hang billionaires and take care of marginalized peoples.
I’m a supporting of progressives but it’s the take over by mind leftist making the entire movement about sex and gender roles when there’s far bigger issues at play. I support these movements, but they coopting the left movement has made the right wing so powerful, even those who would be progressives have gone further right. I’m sick and tired of non European/american people been blown to bits to make shareholders richer while progressives talk about the “massive” difference they made in extending gay pride by 3 more days or some shit
It’s a privilege to not be the oppressed in our country. I hope you appreciate it as much as you make light of it.
But it’s not either or. Working together we can have both. But they take a differing amount of time and effort. Protecting oppressed people in this country is hard. Dismantling the military industrial complex and fighting against the billions of dollars at stake is just a touch harder. But if you want to keep people outside the country safe, you must first control the power inside this country.
That sounds a lot like liberal ‘shut up and do as you are told’ People have done that for decades and the only people things get better for are the rich.
We don’t want perfection, we want equality and equity
And then you’ll continue to get nothing while your opposites succeed at the game. You think evangelicals don’t want perfect authoritarianism? Of course they do. But they’re smart enough to know that they can only get there inch by inch by working with the middle over time, and not seeming extreme.
You can either get over yourself and work strategically, or you can continue to fail against those that do.
And as your pride prevents the former, we slide farther right. But go on, stomp your feet about it. Maybe this time it’ll help.
Your comment still screams of BlueMAGA bullshit. Liberals are the biggest obstacles to progress and are enablers of fascism. They are toxic to movements
Even your reply is condescending and is minimizing the struggle of other people. You’re implying that the only way to achieve success is to do it the liberal way. And despite liberals doing it the same way for decades, your material conditions are identical to my material conditions. States like California with a bulletproof Democrat super majority do not have any better material living conditions than someone in a red State like Alabama
One main issue with our progressive neighbors is they like to co-opt movements and take control of them and fight our class interests to protest the status quo.
I see what you’re saying. If progressives do this, what do you suggest? Are you left of progressives? Sorry, I’m new to actively participating in these types of conversations. I want to help fight the status quo, hang billionaires and take care of marginalized peoples.
I’m way left of progressives. They should have a voice but they need to understand this isn’t their movement to lead, most times they get in the way.
There aren’t enough leftist to be a movement. Accept less than perfect and you’ll get progress.
I’m a supporting of progressives but it’s the take over by mind leftist making the entire movement about sex and gender roles when there’s far bigger issues at play. I support these movements, but they coopting the left movement has made the right wing so powerful, even those who would be progressives have gone further right. I’m sick and tired of non European/american people been blown to bits to make shareholders richer while progressives talk about the “massive” difference they made in extending gay pride by 3 more days or some shit
It’s a privilege to not be the oppressed in our country. I hope you appreciate it as much as you make light of it.
But it’s not either or. Working together we can have both. But they take a differing amount of time and effort. Protecting oppressed people in this country is hard. Dismantling the military industrial complex and fighting against the billions of dollars at stake is just a touch harder. But if you want to keep people outside the country safe, you must first control the power inside this country.
How can you most quickly do that?
That sounds a lot like liberal ‘shut up and do as you are told’ People have done that for decades and the only people things get better for are the rich.
We don’t want perfection, we want equality and equity
And then you’ll continue to get nothing while your opposites succeed at the game. You think evangelicals don’t want perfect authoritarianism? Of course they do. But they’re smart enough to know that they can only get there inch by inch by working with the middle over time, and not seeming extreme.
You can either get over yourself and work strategically, or you can continue to fail against those that do.
And as your pride prevents the former, we slide farther right. But go on, stomp your feet about it. Maybe this time it’ll help.
Your comment still screams of BlueMAGA bullshit. Liberals are the biggest obstacles to progress and are enablers of fascism. They are toxic to movements
shrug I can’t make you successful
Even your reply is condescending and is minimizing the struggle of other people. You’re implying that the only way to achieve success is to do it the liberal way. And despite liberals doing it the same way for decades, your material conditions are identical to my material conditions. States like California with a bulletproof Democrat super majority do not have any better material living conditions than someone in a red State like Alabama