Summary

A YouGov poll revealed that 77% of Germans support banning social media for those under 16, similar to a new Australian law.

The survey found that 82% believe social media harms young people, citing harmful content and addiction.

In Australia, the law fines platforms up to AUD 49.5 million (€30.5M) for allowing under-16s to create accounts, with enforcement trials set before implementation next year. Critics

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    11 days ago

    but we have to acknowledge the negative side, which in my opinion […]

    I don’t do opinions. Burnett (a neuroscientist) has linked many sources - maybe you just need to read a bit more.

    Additionally, your claims about what’s “smartphones” and what’s “social media” are strange - my kids use Snapchat to communicate. Do you think they use SMS?? How old are your kids?

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      Look it’s my opinion from personal experience, just disregard it if it bothers you.

      I read the whole series of posts but didn’t see them, I guess I needed to search some more - my bad.

      I’m not saying social media doesn’t let you do all those things, I’m saying you don’t need it to do them.

      I don’t have kids and never used Snapchat, but what does Snapchat provide that helps them communicate better than let’s say WhatsApp?

      Edit: I went to dig on Burnett’s page for the links you tell me about. All I found was a radio interview of a doctor on radio Boston, an article from the Sunday times about Burnett’s book and an article on Wales online, also about the book.

      Could you link me to the relevant articles I must have missed?

      Edit 2: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7364393/ Found this article that combines different studies made on the subject. Around halfway through the page you will find the results of some of these studies and you will see the answer isn’t clear.

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        I don’t have kids

        Yeah I think you should abstain from having opinions on what their generation is doing then. In the whole of human history no older generation has ever been correct regarding what the upcoming generation should or shouldn’t do.

        The study you link says the exact same thing as Burnett does. It doesn’t support “social media is bad for kids”.

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        In all, the available meta-analytic evidence suggests that SNS use is weakly associated with higher levels of ill-being [14,17, 18, 19, 20] but also with higher levels of well-being [17,19], a result that suggests that ill-being is not simply the flip-side of well-being and vice versa, and that both outcomes should be investigated in their own right [11,39]. Finally, all meta-analyses reported considerable variability in the reported associations. For example, in the meta-analysis by Ivie et al. [14], the reported associations of SMU with depressive symptoms ranged from r = −.10 to r = +.33.

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X21001500

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          In the whole of human history no older generation has ever been correct regarding what the upcoming generation should or should not do

          I may not be a scientist but I know enough about history that any statement that says “in the whole of human history…” and doesn’t finish with death or taxes is bullshit.

          Was the older generation wrong when they told there kids not to do crack when it started becoming popular in the 80s? granted I’m pretty against the war on drugs but even if we do fully legalize we should still keep it away from kids because:

          1. It can be addictive and addiction and developing brains aren’t a good combination.
          2. It is a major decision with positives and negatives that a child can’t fully understand

          Both of those are true , albeit to a far lesser extent, for social media.