• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I’ve read a lot of history. More than you it seems. If you read more, you’d know working class people are actually worse off today than they were in the Great Depression. Inequality, hunger, homelessness, and economic suffering are measurably worse now.

    You’d also know FDR specifically pushed for capitalist reform because the people were on the cusp of revolution, and he wanted to avoid a communist uprising.

    Your refusal to acknowledge suffering people exist around you does not make them disappear. But I guess you believe empathy is a neckbeard thing?

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      15 days ago

      “If you look at tax return stats from the 1930’s you can prove that we’re in a worse off state than the great depression”

      TikTok mind rot needs to stay the fuck on TikTok. Who the fuck is upvoting this trash?

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        15 days ago

        K. Which stats would you like? Homeless rates? Hunger rates? Wealth inequality figures? All worse now than during the Great Depression.

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          What the fuck are these statistics you’re trying to guide the conversation with?

          We’re able to guage things like the “average” income of Americans during the Great Depression by looking at taxes. This means you had to actually make enough to file taxes. The average income of that time is based entirely off of that data, which I think only 2% of the population was filing taxes at the time compared to today’s 70%. The average American was not making today’s equivalent of 30k more during the Great Depression.

          “Hunger rates” - the average American couldn’t buy fucking bread during the Great Depression.

          “Homeless rates” 2 million people were homeless compared to the, fuck it I’ll throw in an extra hundred thousand, 700,000 homeless people today.

          “Wealth inequality” Of course wealth inequality is worse today than in the Great Depression, the fucking stock market crashed in 1929.

          I can’t believe I had to spend precious fucking neurons on this, stop.

          Edit: “I’ve read plenty of history!” Doesn’t know what fucking Hoovervilles were.

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            Have you seen the reports coming from food pantry administrators? We have bread lines now, and they don’t have enough food for everyone who needs it. Police are literally guarding grocery store dumpsters to keep people from getting food out of them.

            But we can play it your way. You’ve said a lot about how we shouldn’t measure the difference. How about you propose which stats we should use? Let’s look into those.

            I suspect you won’t suggest any at all, because it’s bad by any measure.

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              Where in the direct comparisons between the two time periods did you conjure up that I’ve “said a lot about how we shouldn’t measure the difference.”? Where exactly did I suggest, while measuring the differences between the two time periods, that we shouldn’t measure the difference?

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                15 days ago

                There it is! The non-answer! Can’t ever be held to your word if you never actually say anything.

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                  15 days ago

                  I’ve addressed every “point” you’ve made, you’ve done nothing but prove you’re a troglodyte.

                  Go outside and talk to real people. Any other message from you and I’m going to give you my default response to cave trolls.

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                    14 days ago

                    Give me a statistic you believe credible. Name even a single measurement.

                    Definitely an astroturfer trying to convince people things aren’t as bad as they are.

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      15 days ago

      lol!

      Thanks, I needed a good laugh today and your silly antics made me smile.

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        15 days ago

        Yes, it’s become clear you think the suffering of others is laughable. You’ve been extremely upfront about your attitude towards people like that.

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          We both know that you aren’t suffering. I’m laughing at you in particular.

          The fact you can’t figure that out is what makes it even funnier.

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            I never said I was. I care about people who are. You seem unaware those people even exist.

            I understand that empathy and advocating for others is difficult for you to comprehend. You’ve not been subtle about it.

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              And your idea of helping people who can’t get insulin is to burn down the system so no insulin gets delivered?

              That’s such a helpful idea. [/s]

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                Sounds like you’ve bought into the capitalist propaganda that all of society will collapse without greedy middlemen to control it all. You lack both intelligence and imagination.

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                  Give me one reason to think you could organize a wienie roast, much less the distribution system for the country.

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                    The distribution system already exists. The executives skimming massive profits out of it are not a critical component. In fact, it will function much better & more efficiently without that layer.

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            15 days ago

            I’m laughin at how ugly you seem as a person itt. It’s not funny, but what else can i do watching your mask slip? I’m all out of tears watchin others like you fall

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              You’re pretty funny yourself. "The Grapes of Wrath’ was all about how much the New Deal helped people. Now you’re on the side of a guy who is trashing FDR.

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                Well what he said about FDRs new deal push is true, communism was much more prevalent in the US before mcarthysism, he was well aware of that, you can find your choice of source.

                And the grapes of wrath was, um, NOT about the new deal. It follows a farm family as they are destroyed by the dust bowl and predatory banks, and the struggle against police backed rich landowners in California

                You should read it. It’s good

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                  Well what he said about FDRs new deal push is true, communism was much more prevalent in the US before mcarthysism, he was well aware of that, you can find your choice of source.

                  McCarthy came years after FDR died. But yeah, I guess if you don’t know history it all happened at once.

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                    15 days ago

                    Going with deliberately misunderstanding me? Cmon brother i thought you were more talented than this.

                    But i like you. Believe it or not? I love smartasses, it’s fun to beef online. But this is not fun, this lil trick is some gradeschool crap.

                    I think you’re probably better than this. Tomorrow or the day after when you are less upset we can go over ideas for you to up your game.

                    first one’s free playa: don’t go after someone named after a character in a book you never read! C’mon! Why? That’s just askin to be clowned!

                    DM me ok? I’m fr can help