• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Except the Punisher/warrior/tattered flag sticker fanboys all just want you to STFU because they’re armed and want to beat your ass if you disagree with their fascist views or the jacked up truck lights blinding you.

    The Punisher was anti-fascist in the sense of:

    He’s the part that screams in rage at the million frustrations and injustices, major and minor, plaguing the average person in the twentieth century. He’s the violent part of us that yearns to do something about it. Quickly. Simply. Finally.

    So killing the Big Insurance exec would fit the Punisher’s M.O. perfectly.

    Unfortunately, despite the creator’s deliberate attempts to have the character stand for positive change like BLM the Punisher still seems to be a mostly right-wing character despite the Left’s pointing out the character’s anti-fascist bent. The character shot civilians, talked about black-on-black crime, fought communists…basically just someone who lets their rage loose to beat the shit out of or kill people and disregard any consequences in a might-makes-right world. He’s not pro-fascist or right wing at all, but he certainty helps out that ideology sometimes. Of course, the right wing just takes the might-makes-right part and runs with it while disregarding what sort of actual justice the charter tends to pursue with his violence - and it isn’t about being forced to wear masks or letting women have autonomy over their reproductive rights.

    That turned into a Punisher explanation I wasn’t expecting to do…

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      If you think that’s confusing, just remember there are right-wing fascist Trekkies

      Lol yea, Star Trek, the very show known to push progressive societal boundaries (*of the time relative to the shows airing, TOS being a 60s show has a very different message than say TNG in the 80s or ENT in the 2000s or SNW of now) and they think it’s some sort of right leaning show just now being “corrupted by woke”

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        If you think that’s confusing, just remember there are right-wing fascist Trekkies

        Their favourite episodes must be all the alternate universe ones.

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        It’s not too much of a stretch for TOS to be construed as fascist. It’s a human-chauvinist show that, despite the claims that the Federation is peaceful, winds up kicking ass everywhere they go. The Federation being an all-controlling, powerful entity that dictates the actions of its citizens and military/exploration arm. Pretty authoritarian on the surface.

        Believe it or not, fascism isn’t inherently anti-progressive. You’re just forced to conform to that government’s brand of progressiveness.

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          Believe it or not, fascism isn’t inherently anti-progressive. You’re just forced to conform to that government’s brand of progressiveness.

          Well, fascism is. I think that quote would work better of you changed that to authoritarianism.