GiveSendGo stands firmly behind its decision to host content related to Mangione.

“We believe every person is entitled to due process in a court of law — not in the court of public opinion,” Alex Shipley, GiveSendGo’s communications director, said in a statement. “To be absolutely clear, we do not support or condone vigilante justice. However, people have a constitutional right to a strong legal defense, and access to that defense should not be reserved only for the wealthy or those who fit a particular narrative. Our role is to give individuals and their communities the opportunity to fundraise for that defense, because true justice is served when everyone has equal access to a fair trial — regardless of the verdict.”

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          I’m investigating some new lighting for my home. I just want to be sure I install it correctly. I don’t want to burn my house down by improperly wiring. I’m also seeing how other people have installed new lights, so I can learn from their successes and mistakes. It’s all very new to me. I didn’t grow up in a house of electricians. But I do know it’s important to measure twice and cut once… so to speak.

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      Because a large amount of people have convinced themselves that he’s a working class hero, when realistically he was well on track to become exactly the sort of corpo techbro they despise.

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        Nah screw that. The governor of New York should give him a full pardon. He did nothing wrong. He’s a latter-day John Brown.

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          I’m not sure what bias you think I have here. He’s got a rather extensive and public social media presence, much of which has been backed up and preserved and is accessible for anybody interested to review. His personal interests, Ivy League education, past experiences, are all very well known at this point. Not to mention his family’s significant wealth; his uncle owns a country club and he was set to receive a $100M inheritance from his grandmother.

          It’s really hard to see him as anything other than a typical, affluent New England yuppie who lost his marbles.

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            He is rich and still (allegedly) did one of the best things he could have done for the working class. Kropotkin was a prince until he renounced to that title. Those are the kind of class traitors we should encourage.

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            Just because a person has rich relatives, doesn’t mean they’re a bad person. Just because they were sent to Ivy League schools doesn’t make them a bad person.

            What past experience and actions on his social media have lead you to think this? Please be specific.

            Because you would think if he was benefiting so much from all that, he would be swimming in the koolaid, yet it appears he went to great lengths to deliver a message that is very different from that of a tech bro.

            Your opinions just don’t add up to me. I think you see all rich kids as people to hate, and find ways to hate them.

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              Two comp sci degrees from an Ivy League school, $1B+ family wealth, living comfortably in one of the most expensive cities in Hawaii while still being able to afford unplanned and whimsical backpacking treks across Asia to do a little soul-searching. If he hadn’t injured himself surfing, he’d likely be halfway through his first memecoin rug-pull right now, and we all know it.

              I get that I’m in the minority here, and I’m fine with that. As someone with their own problems with the healthcare system, I sympathize with his pain and his anger. But I don’t see a hero in Mangione, I just see an incredibly privileged kid who exploited more opportunities than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes and threw it all away to kill one person without even resulting in a single policy change. It just seems gross to me, to celebrate this depressing exercise of American futility.

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                Okay I still just see you complaining about him being given the options you didn’t have. Not him doing anything specific to earn your hatred.

                I’d argue he’s done more to help you than you’ve done to help yourself… so, maybe… consider giving him a little more credit?

                Look, I get it. I grew up in a welfare home. I paid my way through college and I really don’t have anything substantial to show for it other than a somewhat okay savings account. I very much envy the people who have so many options and would never know the crippling anxiety of “how can I pay my rent this month” or “It’s a real possibility I could end up on the street if I make just a few bad choices” I hear you so much. But just for this one person… go easy on him for now! Let him earn that hate. He just did all of us a really big favor. There is a very real possibility that if he is found not guilty, he gets on the bull horn and makes a total ass out of himself.

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                  I’d argue he’s done more to help you than you’ve done to help yourself

                  What an almost insultingly absurd thing to say. He’s done nothing for any of us. Killing Thompson didn’t fix a single problem for anyone. Nobody’s claim got approved over this. All he accomplished was giving a bunch of people a justice boner.

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                    Someone has to kick start a movement, become a matyr for everyone to rally around.

                    Mohamed Bouazizi was just one person who set himself on fire. Isolated, it’s just a man setting himself on fire. However, that incident ended up being action needed for the Tunisian revolution.

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                    And yet what he did was infinitely more effective than the “Jack shit” approach we’ve been trying for decades.

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        Maybe he was on track for that or maybe he would have taken a different path, we don’t actually know. But it doesn’t matter because what did happen is he became radicalized against corporations (or at least corporate healthcare) and took action. What he did and what he believes now are far more important than who else he could have become.