In a way I agree, but the Allies promised things in the exchange for cooperation against the Ottomans, and that isn’t the kind of thing people forget, and is the start of a lot of the problems ever since. Plus creating the state of Israel was not an altruistic thing, it was spearheaded by many antisemites who were just as willing to dump them off in Madagascar until the Middle East fell into their laps.
But I try to avoid wading into too controversial territory since I’m too lazy to use an alt, so I’m going to stop here and revert back to my original pro Lina Khan position! 😜
yeah and I get that. People tend to look at history from a very simplistic lens and don’t see the way political decisions sorta limit later ones. Heck people see current political things like they are so easy and not impacted by history and alliances and treaties and such.
It’s a real investment most people don’t find necessary to learn all this stuff. Even having the knowledge really doesn’t give you that much to actually accomplish doing anything with it.
Like most things, it can be looked at in micro or macro levels. There are the specific current events, but we didn’t get here from nowhere, there is a rich history of previous events and decisions and the recollection of those events is different for every participant.
That is both a pro and con that’s been debated as long as democracy has existed.
The founders also debated if regular folk were wise enough to pick good representatives. Even since, we’ve changed how some positions are filled, by direct election or by appointments. We have representatives pass some laws by democratic vote, some by executive order, and some by ballot initiatives. We pick and choose what level of involvement we want the masses to have all the time.
Many problems with democracy in its modern state have been debated since the Ancient Greeks. The great philosophers saw how democracy can be turned to tyranny by appealing to people’s emotions rather than things being driven by fact. Here’s a nice little article on that!
We haven’t ironed out all the issues yet on how we should govern ourselves, and the more I watch my fellow humans, the more it puzzles me we can be so technically advanced as a society while still falling victim to residual primate instincts that appear totally irrational to anyone observing from the outside, while that same observer is likely falling victim to the same thing wherever they are living.
I don’t hate the US system of government, but its creators knew it wasn’t perfect. They tried to design mechanisms to let it be corrected, but do a majority of us feel we’re currently in the right course? Ignorance of politics certainly didn’t help the Ancient Greeks stay on top of the world, and it isn’t doing the world any favors right now.
In a way I agree, but the Allies promised things in the exchange for cooperation against the Ottomans, and that isn’t the kind of thing people forget, and is the start of a lot of the problems ever since. Plus creating the state of Israel was not an altruistic thing, it was spearheaded by many antisemites who were just as willing to dump them off in Madagascar until the Middle East fell into their laps.
But I try to avoid wading into too controversial territory since I’m too lazy to use an alt, so I’m going to stop here and revert back to my original pro Lina Khan position! 😜
yeah and I get that. People tend to look at history from a very simplistic lens and don’t see the way political decisions sorta limit later ones. Heck people see current political things like they are so easy and not impacted by history and alliances and treaties and such.
It’s a real investment most people don’t find necessary to learn all this stuff. Even having the knowledge really doesn’t give you that much to actually accomplish doing anything with it.
Like most things, it can be looked at in micro or macro levels. There are the specific current events, but we didn’t get here from nowhere, there is a rich history of previous events and decisions and the recollection of those events is different for every participant.
Our system of government is also designed so that most people aren’t supposed to have to know about the intricacies of politics
That is both a pro and con that’s been debated as long as democracy has existed.
The founders also debated if regular folk were wise enough to pick good representatives. Even since, we’ve changed how some positions are filled, by direct election or by appointments. We have representatives pass some laws by democratic vote, some by executive order, and some by ballot initiatives. We pick and choose what level of involvement we want the masses to have all the time.
Many problems with democracy in its modern state have been debated since the Ancient Greeks. The great philosophers saw how democracy can be turned to tyranny by appealing to people’s emotions rather than things being driven by fact. Here’s a nice little article on that!
We haven’t ironed out all the issues yet on how we should govern ourselves, and the more I watch my fellow humans, the more it puzzles me we can be so technically advanced as a society while still falling victim to residual primate instincts that appear totally irrational to anyone observing from the outside, while that same observer is likely falling victim to the same thing wherever they are living.
I don’t hate the US system of government, but its creators knew it wasn’t perfect. They tried to design mechanisms to let it be corrected, but do a majority of us feel we’re currently in the right course? Ignorance of politics certainly didn’t help the Ancient Greeks stay on top of the world, and it isn’t doing the world any favors right now.