A migrant from Guatemala allegedly lit a woman on fire on a New York City subway train and stuck around to watch her burn to death just three days before Christmas.
A slight uptick in violent crime today compared to the numbers we had in the 70s (19th or 20th Century, take your pick) is drastically lower still.
As to the point of deportations, no, it isn’t an “easy way” to reduce crime. The logistical strain of such an action and disruption to our economy is staggering to even think about. In a morbid way, the handful of crimes committed by illegal immigrants are acceptable casualties on the altar of economic stability: if people won’t stand for expensive eggs (thanks bird flu), they sure as shit won’t stand for EVERYTHING that uses migrant labor going up dramatically either.
Firstly, it’s a bit odd that you’re comparing our crime stats to the 70s, as that’s completely irrelevant. Nobody on the right is comparing current crime rates to the crime rates of the 70s.
Secondly, you’re completely right that mass deportations aren’t “easy”, I should I have said simple. It’s like, “oh, a bunch of these people are causing crimes, let’s get rid of them and we’ll have less crime”. Even if you pull that off, you’ll still have crime from the citizens that’s not being dealt with, which I believe is something we agree on.
Thirdly, I don’t think depriving workers of rights is worth cheaper eggs. On that front, you sound pretty hyper-capitalistic, to an absurd degree.
I’m comparing crime statistics to their historical numbers - the 70s was simply the first that came to mind. Pick any historical time, and the crime was higher.
I never said I agree with the workers being exploited is worth it - I am saying that the system the people calling for mass deportations within is dependent on the ruthless exploitation of millions of people, whether they like it or not. If they struggle to deal with expensive eggs, they will be in for a very rude awakening when the cheap labor that makes things so cheap goes away.
A slight uptick in violent crime today compared to the numbers we had in the 70s (19th or 20th Century, take your pick) is drastically lower still.
As to the point of deportations, no, it isn’t an “easy way” to reduce crime. The logistical strain of such an action and disruption to our economy is staggering to even think about. In a morbid way, the handful of crimes committed by illegal immigrants are acceptable casualties on the altar of economic stability: if people won’t stand for expensive eggs (thanks bird flu), they sure as shit won’t stand for EVERYTHING that uses migrant labor going up dramatically either.
Firstly, it’s a bit odd that you’re comparing our crime stats to the 70s, as that’s completely irrelevant. Nobody on the right is comparing current crime rates to the crime rates of the 70s.
Secondly, you’re completely right that mass deportations aren’t “easy”, I should I have said simple. It’s like, “oh, a bunch of these people are causing crimes, let’s get rid of them and we’ll have less crime”. Even if you pull that off, you’ll still have crime from the citizens that’s not being dealt with, which I believe is something we agree on.
Thirdly, I don’t think depriving workers of rights is worth cheaper eggs. On that front, you sound pretty hyper-capitalistic, to an absurd degree.
I’m comparing crime statistics to their historical numbers - the 70s was simply the first that came to mind. Pick any historical time, and the crime was higher.
I never said I agree with the workers being exploited is worth it - I am saying that the system the people calling for mass deportations within is dependent on the ruthless exploitation of millions of people, whether they like it or not. If they struggle to deal with expensive eggs, they will be in for a very rude awakening when the cheap labor that makes things so cheap goes away.