Context: https://lemmy.world/comment/14224519
I was just browsing some comments and came across this… exchange. In addition to “WTF is wrong with you” I also reported the comment for something like, ‘this person is using the plain definition of genocide to discredit the idea of genocide. this person is clearly some kind of bigot/troll, or a deeply ignorant and unserious person. please keep a close eye on this person.’ I think that’s the reason why another mod responded with the genocide articles. All this before I realized they were a mod. Incidentally, this flyingsquid character is still sealioning that nobody answered them and that “the genocide is, as I said, not all that horrific.” At least they put the words in their own mouth this time (downgraded from “you must not think it’s all that horrific” -what the fuck!?).
When I checked my inbox this morning I found they had responded, but this time I noticed their name, and the M next to it.
So I ask you, in this context (or any, really), is “…good god, you’re a mod here?” uncivil? I think the moderator is silencing legitimate criticism. I think it was the moderator being uncivil throughout. I think this flyingsquid character is a Power Tripping Bastard.
No, that’s not incivility.
And in case he changes the comment saying “genocide is not all that horrific”, here’s an archive: https://archive.is/Frsby
Let me see if there’s a way to report a mod to the admins.
Edit: yeah, if you message @[email protected] it goes to the admins.
Edit 2: 24 hours later, comments are still up and no response from the admins.
i hardly think he’s saying there that genocide in general is not horrific - he gives two examples that are well short of genocide, and says that if you call that a genocide then that genocide is not all that horrific
They give two examples of things that actually constitute genocide but which are never performed by themselves.
Even In the question, “what if Mexico invaded USA and prevented us enclaves from celebrating us holidays, would that be genocide?” flyingsquid couldn’t manage to separate the cultural erasure from the physical destruction. Because yeah, obviously if you take over a country and deny the people of that country the opportunity to practice their culture… that’s genocide. It’s cultural erasure. Along with all the, y’know, the deaths that tend to go along with military invasion of a sovereign nation. It would tend to turn Americans into Mexicans- it would tend to erase the American identity.(edit: fake news) It is a question that could only be uttered by a deeply ignorant and unserious person in no position to be lecturing others on the subject, or a bigot/troll who knows better but wishes to discredit the concept of genocide.it was the other way round, the usa invading mexico, with mexico in response disallowing 4th of july celebrations
Hm. you’re right. That’s a trickier question, but still yes it’s genocide. I find it hard to believe “you’re not allowed to celebrate 4th of july” happens in a vacuum in wartime.
oh come off it. is every war genocide to you? you diminish the term by using it this loosely
I, and everyone else in this thread, seem to disagree. The onus is on you at this point to make the opposite case. To someone else. I’m not interested in hearing your arguments for why denying people their culture is actually cool and normal and totally not horrifying or genocide. Flyingsquid’s question is an absurd hypothetical oversimplificaiton, not representative of actual genocidal conditions, and the question can only be asked by an unserious and ignorant person in no position to be lecturing others, or by someone attempting to cheapen the concept of genocide. Cultural destruction doesn’t happen in a vaccuum. It doesn’t happen without the exertion of violence. Are you seriously of the opinion that if us invaded mexico and mexico said “you can’t celebrate us holidays now” to us people living there, they’d just meekly go along with it? Do you seriously think that would be the only thing mexico would do, ban 4th of July? I didn’t answer Flyingsquid because it’s a stupid and/or evil fucking question.
Don’t be naive.
Don’t be an asshole who thinks not supporting Russian imperialism is genocide. Jesus I hate how good this bait is, surely nobody is stupid and cruel enough to think Ukrainians should be embracing russian takeover and genocide, or that rejecting russian takeover and genocide is itself somehow genocide
Look, you seem like a reasonable person, but you’re being unkind and putting words in my mouth. Please explain to me why I should take you seriously. Try to remember to be kind. You are welcome to be as verbose as you think will help your case. I swear to you I will give your comment 100% of the respect and attention it deserves.