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    Imagine living in a world where you fear for your citizens because someone could kill them as a revenge for some burnt books.

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      Unless a huge majority of muslim religious leaders are decrying seeking vengeance for things like this, and unless they’re all telling their congregations to be peaceful, then it’s a shit religion that I would be ashamed to be a part of.

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        We ARE condemning it. We’ve been consistently doing that for literally decades now. Did you even bother to check?

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          Where? Which respected imams and Muslim leaders are criticising this? Genuine question.

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            The list is literally hundreds of thousands. Honestly, go into any mosque and ask the imam. Follow any Islamic leaders; in the US it’s people like Imam Omar Suleiman who post a lot on social media. Or imam Khalid Latif on YouTube.

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          So the majority of the muslim priests (imams) are loudly condemning it during their sermons? You sure?

          If so, aight, fair enough.

          But if I were you I’d do what a ton of people did for the catholic church during the whole child sex scandal, and leave to join an offshoot

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            Yes I’m sure, my mosque even livestreams the sermon on YouTube every week if you care to check.

            The fact that illiterate farmers in Pakistan are hurting people doesn’t mean I need to change my religion and has nothing to do with my prayers to God. I have as much in common with them as I do with Jack the Ripper. Should I change my citizenship because my country is full of racists? No, because they have almost nothing in common with me. Asking me to do so is because you are unable to deal with the stereotypes in your mind, not me.

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              You’re making good points and making me think.

              Although, I will say the attacks on people are far more common than jack the ripper (one guy). I think the catholic sex scanal was a much closer analogy.

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              doesn’t mean I need to change my religion

              I don’t think you need to do anything. It would be a wise decision for you to leave your religion, you know assuming you don’t live in a country where it is dominate and they kill you for doing that, but you don’t need to change it.

              and has nothing to do with my prayers to God

              There isn’t any God. You are talking to yourself.

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                How interesting that I haven’t tried proselytizing or converting anyone and are merely pushing back against islamophobia and hate, and you feel the need to push your beliefs on me?

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                  How have I pushed you? Did I make you wear a hijab or torture you as an apostate? This is like that saying if you are so used to getting everything you want equality looks like oppression.

                  I gave you advice, you can follow it or not. There is no god, prayer and your rituals are a waste of time and effort. Do what you want with that advice.

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            Sigh. The attack on him was condemned by Muslims and Muslim leaders worldwide. Those condemnations were all over Muslim social media and TV in Arabic, Urdu, Swahili, Malay, Bangla, Turkish, Kazan, Uzbek, and the list goes on. Did you even bother to check? Or do you just assume all Muslims are terrorists?

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        This is a ludicrous statement. Obviously Muslim leaders shouldn’t support or endorse violent actions, but they do not have a responsibility to account for every misdeed done by members of their faith. Does every Christian church have to provide a response for every Christian nutjob?

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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          Does every Christian church have to provide a response for every Christian nutjob?

          Nope. They can remain silent and people like me will continue to point out their involvement. Please remain silent. Please please continue to let people do bad things in the name of Christ. Also Christ never existed.