• luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    I advise against using Bazzite as a Windows convert, unless you’re happy to do a lot of reading to understand what you’re actually signing up for. The founder doesn’t really care about Windows Gamers (or anyone outside of the professional linux world), according to a comment they made earlier today in response to criticism of the description “cloud native”.

    To save you a click, the conversation was about the description of Bazzite as “cloud native” on the bazzite homepage* can be confusing or even misleading for people who assume it means “will run in the cloud”. The founder explicitly commented they’ll keep doubling down on the term until people no longer complain about it.

    Their argument was that there is an entire foundation for Cloud Native Computing and that the concept is “an incredibly common thing in any professional paid Linux job.” They understand that Windows Gamers in particular might have the aforementioned misconception, but they don’t care if you get it.

    That doesn’t necessarily make Bazzite a bad distro, but I’d be wary about the level of assistance you can expect from people who think that a technical word soup featuring terms like “build our images” and “deploying Linux environments to users” is enough to explain that “cloud native” actually just means the development process and the end product has nothing to do with the cloud.


    *Specifically, the homepage’s text opens with:
    “Bazzite is a cloud native image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices - including your favorite handheld.”
    I don’t know why they’d lead with the development method, rather than describing what the OS actually does, but apparently that’s what they care most about.

    As an aside, I don’t see any obvious description what “atomic” means on the Fedora Atomic site either.

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      1 hour ago

      Cloud native is the end product too. The point of my firmness with you was not to express that I don’t care about windows users – quite the contrary, none of this would exist without that – but to express that I don’t care about your issue with the definition of an already defined word.

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        48 minutes ago

        Cloud native is the end product too.

        What bearing does it have on use of the end product? If I am a German Native, but move to France, and someone asks me where I live, what difference does it make whether I’m German Native?

        Bazzite isn’t cloud based in the sense of “runs in the cloud”. If you install it on your computer, it runs on your computer. It’s not a cloud resident, in the sense of that analogy, no matter whether it was born there.

        Unless it does, in which case it would seem that the term isn’t quite so clear as you think.

        I don’t care about your issue with the definition of an already defined word.

        My issue isn’t with the definition, but with the implicit assumption that it’s well known or easy to understand, as well as the way it is used. We had that discussion over in the other thread already, but the gist of your replies has always been “I don’t care if the term is useless or can be misunderstood. It’s correct, so it stays.” That stance is my issue.