Fifty-four percent of U.S. adults expect that Joe Biden will go down in history as a below-average or poor president, while 26% say he will be remembered as an average president and 19% as outstanding or above average.
I agree with a lot of these points, but the one about the gerontocracy; I don’t understand how people have a problem with biden’s age but are seemingly fine with trump, who will claim the title of oldest president ever in this next term assuming he doesn’t die in office. (Not saying that I’m inferring that this applies to you from your post btw, just an observation about how everyone says Biden is too old, but the argument hasn’t been effectively used against trump for some reason.)
Same here. I don’t know why it’s not an issue for the people that voted for him though, especially because they made such a stink about Biden’s. Oh wait, I forgot…they’re hypocrites.
That’s sort of a blanket statement, and I don’t think it really applies about Warren and Sanders.
My sense is that most folks feel that Bernie is too old. And I didn’t realize EW was 75, but in contrast to both Biden and Trump, I haven’t seen Sanders or Warren randomly zone out and have an ‘old person’ moment on camera.
They both still seem mentally sharp. Whether or not that’s a function of having less press exposure and a greater ability to choose when they appear before the cameras is an unknown.
Not advocating for them, mind you, because I do think they’re too old. Just adding that I think their perceived sharpness allows them to avoid those criticisms.
My point was that age only became a talking point in regard to Biden and that’s the only person in the aforementioned gerontocracy that seems to have been affected by the younger voters being fed up, so we’re essentially saying the same thing.
But why single out “the left?” Grassley won reelection two years ago and he’s 91 and afaik plans to run again in 2028.
Generally it’s young Democratic voters complaining, but again, same voters who support Sanders and Warren.
We saw a little bit of it, but not enough of it, with Diane Feinstein. I’m surprised we’re not hearing it about Nancy Pelosi. If you’re old enough to fall and break a hip, you probably shouldn’t be in office.
I agree with a lot of these points, but the one about the gerontocracy; I don’t understand how people have a problem with biden’s age but are seemingly fine with trump, who will claim the title of oldest president ever in this next term assuming he doesn’t die in office. (Not saying that I’m inferring that this applies to you from your post btw, just an observation about how everyone says Biden is too old, but the argument hasn’t been effectively used against trump for some reason.)
Trump’s base don’t actually like the man on a personal level. Two of the biggest reasons people vote for him:
They’re conservative Christians who would vote for Satan himself if it meant appointing more Republican judges.
They view him as a giant middle finger to the establishment, elites, and existing party leaders.
Note, Trump being old as fuck doesn’t subtract from either of those core values.
Trump’s age is definitely on the long, long list of things I hate about him.
Same here. I don’t know why it’s not an issue for the people that voted for him though, especially because they made such a stink about Biden’s. Oh wait, I forgot…they’re hypocrites.
People are not a monolith. Those without standards have no reason not to vote Trump. Those with standards have reasons to not vote for either.
Yes both are old, that doesn’t mean we should have two old fuckers running for president. Old white dudes running for president suck.
The left suddenly has no problem with a gerontocracy if we’re talking about Bernie Sanders (83, 1 year older than Biden) or Elizabeth Warren (75).
That’s sort of a blanket statement, and I don’t think it really applies about Warren and Sanders.
My sense is that most folks feel that Bernie is too old. And I didn’t realize EW was 75, but in contrast to both Biden and Trump, I haven’t seen Sanders or Warren randomly zone out and have an ‘old person’ moment on camera.
They both still seem mentally sharp. Whether or not that’s a function of having less press exposure and a greater ability to choose when they appear before the cameras is an unknown.
Not advocating for them, mind you, because I do think they’re too old. Just adding that I think their perceived sharpness allows them to avoid those criticisms.
The center had a huge problem with Sanders’ age in 2016. That went away in 2020.
My point was that age only became a talking point in regard to Biden and that’s the only person in the aforementioned gerontocracy that seems to have been affected by the younger voters being fed up, so we’re essentially saying the same thing.
But why single out “the left?” Grassley won reelection two years ago and he’s 91 and afaik plans to run again in 2028.
Generally it’s young Democratic voters complaining, but again, same voters who support Sanders and Warren.
We saw a little bit of it, but not enough of it, with Diane Feinstein. I’m surprised we’re not hearing it about Nancy Pelosi. If you’re old enough to fall and break a hip, you probably shouldn’t be in office.
Yeah, agreed that they’re all too old. Bernie is great, but I’d have expected him to retire by now.