Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.
From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.
PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.
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they’re provided, veterinary care, protection from the elements, protection from predators, drinkable water, space to graze, and opportunities to socialize. it’s not imprisonment.
Those have nothing to do with imprisonment.
If I locked 10 people in a room and regularly gave them food and water they would still be imprisoned because they couldn’t leave.
We know humans suffer from imprisonment and we accept since the mid 20th century that this applies to all humans. It’s not a big stretch to assume imprisonment causes suffering for animals as well.
Besides, most cows on the planet have literally nothing of what you described. Except maybe drinkable water and protection from predators.
that’s not true.
Is so.
saying it doesn’t make it true
It does
Most cows on the planet are currently living in factory farms as cattle a few months away from being slaughtered.
it seems like you think cattle spend their entire lives in a cafo. they don’t.
most dairies, even large scale dairies, have pasture. beef cattle are raised 12 to 14 months grazing before going to a feedlot. so where are all these life-long confined cattle?
so you see they do get protection from the elements
they are, and that’s not all the care they get
care to cite this?
Good lord you argue in bad faith. One line replies of basically “no”, “doubt it”, “citation needed”.
Like, come on man. How insufferable.
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith
No u
this isn’t evidence, it’s a rhetorical complaint about being asked for evidence.
it’s not imprisonment. it’s husbandry